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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II
    I haven't watched the clips and I don't care.

    I can't be bothered to familiarize myself with the subject of the discussion, but I'll do you a favor and tell you whats really going on anyway.


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    Moore, Gore, O'Reilly, Rush, etc are messengers bigger than the message, which is a shame when they have a worthwhile message. Their snotty, know-it-all and condesending personalities overshadow and destroy the validity of the message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
    I can't be bothered to familiarize myself with the subject of the discussion, but I'll do you a favor and tell you whats really going on anyway.

    No, I made an educated guess. So far nothing has belied my guess. It's all about that horrible slob with the five o 'clock shade and his antagonists Mr B. and Mr O', not about the subject of his movie (which I have seen).
    So there, you young whippersnapper.
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    Default Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN

    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II
    No, I made an educated guess. So far nothing has belied my guess. It's all about that horrible slob with the five o 'clock shade and his antagonists Mr B. and Mr O', not about the subject of his movie (which I have seen).
    So there, you young whippersnapper.
    Actually, Dr. Gupta was making the point that Moore had made a good movie and he didn't need to resort to the hyperbole, exaggeration and unsupported assertions he engaged in. He's right. Moore is right, we have a big mess with our health care system. But why does it have to be black and white? Why is that Moore and others get to frame the discussion as "if you agree the US health care system isn't optimized, then you must agree to immediately enact full universal health care with complete government oversight"? And yes, that is the way he's framing the discussion. No discussion of in-between answers. Where's Germany and Italy or other countries that have achieved great results with something less than a complete government takeover?
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    Default Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN

    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II
    No, I made an educated guess. So far nothing has belied my guess. It's all about that horrible slob with the five o 'clock shade and his antagonists Mr B. and Mr O', not about the subject of his movie (which I have seen).
    So there, you young whippersnapper.
    I never said you weren't a good guesser.

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    No, I made an educated guess. So far nothing has belied my guess.
    If you bothered watching the clip it would.

    So there, you young whippersnapper.
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    Nope, he agrees with what the clip shows: that the hyperbole damages the debate, and that people like Moore and O'Reilly aren't helping one bit. A good guess indeed.
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    Default Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
    Nope, he agrees with what the clip shows: that the hyperbole damages the debate, and that people like Moore and O'Reilly aren't helping one bit. A good guess indeed.
    Yeah, the way in which so many political topics are narrowed down to personality clashes in today's mainstream media really annoys me. On the substance, the funny thing is I tend to agree (as a non-American outsider, let it be said) more or less with Michael Moore despite his whining and hypocrisy. And his movies are very well made, it has to be said. Whereas I disagree strongly with Al Gore because he is a demagogue who gets his facts wrong, not because he built a 200 gallon jacuzzi for his dog or whatever the indictment was. And by the way Gore's movie sucks horribly. Yikes, what a waste of time that was - if it hadn't been my job to cover it, I would have walked off after ten minutes and left Mr Gore (who was present at the Dutch premier) standing there.
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    Cool, this thread has a little bit of everything in it: healthcare, conservatism, Reagan saving the economy, MM, Bill O'Idiot...

    Just the kind of "sampler" thread I needed to get my feet wet again after being away for so long.

    Thanks guys...

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    Default Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN

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    Just the kind of "sampler" thread I needed to get my feet wet again after being away for so long.
    You've been missed. Welcome back.
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    I hate Michael Moore
    I hate Wolf Blitzer
    I hate O'reilly

    But they do give out a lot of free hot air. Thats gotta mean something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wammer
    I hate Michael Moore
    I hate Wolf Blitzer
    I hate O'reilly

    But they do give out a lot of free hot air. Thats gotta mean something.
    There's the real cause of global warming.
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