Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN

[Gawain of Orkeny]

This guy just cant take criticism

O'Reilly to M. Moore: Try That With Me, Traitor; CNN...

[Lemur]

Bill O'Reilly and Michael Moore. Now that would be worth watching, especially if they were given chainsaws. I wonder which man would be the bigger coward? Hard to say.

[Caius]

Why you hate Michael Moore?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Why you hate Michael Moore?

Why do you hate freedom?

[Xiahou]

Bill O'Reilly and Michael Moore. Now that would be worth watching, especially if they were given chainsaws. I wonder which man would be the bigger coward? Hard to say.

They "debated" around the last presidential election iirc- no chainsaws though.

As I remember it, it was disappointing all around with both looking, unsurprisingly, like twits.

[naut]

I hate that Fox news guy just as much as I hate Moore, damn right-wing facisimmo. That guy infuriates me all those things he mentioned are basic human rights, but a government should be centralist, with aspects of the right and left not purely one side or the other.

[Caius]

Why do you hate freedom?

Because I suffer from Boredom.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I hate that Fox news guy just as much as I hate Moore, damn right-wing facisimmo. That guy infuriates me all those things he mentioned are basic human rights,

You hate most Americans then. Bill is a bit rightwing but hes far from some right wing nut job. I would imagine he pretty much represents whats the opinion of most Americans on this matter. We dont want it thank you very much.

[naut]

We dont want it thank you very much.

Then I respect your opinion(s).

But it's ridiculous to claim that passing public health will lead to more Socialist measures, that's just propaganda scare tactics. Personally I like the dodgy system we have here. The Public Health doesn't cover everything, but it makes it a lot less. Like when I bought glasses I saved AU$150 of AU$700; or when I go to the dentist save AU$75-100 of AU$300-350; or when my mother had dental surgery she saved between AU$250-500 of AU$2000-2500. Here the government promotes getting Private Health Insurance as well, so if you combine the two you can save a fair amount of the costs.

[Lemur]

You hate most Americans then. Bill is a bit rightwing but hes far from some right wing nut job. I would imagine he pretty much represents whats the opinion of most Americans on this matter. We dont want it thank you very much.

Gawain, if I ever catch you using the words "Bill O'Reilly," "represent" and "America" in the same sentence again, I'm going to wash your mouth out with soap.

[Samurai Waki]

Bill O'Reilly represents the vast Right Wing audience that watches Bill O'Reilly.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Gawain, if I ever catch you using the words "Bill O'Reilly," "represent" and "America" in the same sentence again, I'm going to wash your mouth out with soap.

n. Bill is a bit rightwing but hes far from some right wing nut job. I would imagine he pretty much represents whats the opinion of most Americans on this matter. We dont want it thank you very much.

Ever hear his position on the war?

[Xiahou]

n. Bill is a bit rightwing but hes far from some right wing nut job. I would imagine he pretty much represents whats the opinion of most Americans on this matter. We dont want it thank you very much.

Ever hear his position on the war?

I'd definitely classify O'Reilly as more of a right of center populist. He calls himself a "traditionalist" which I suppose fits ok.

Regardless, he's no conservative. How can you tell? Because whenever he highlights a problem, he more often than not looks to the government and lawmakers to provide a fix via new legislation/regulation. Not a conservative trait.

He does have a huge audience, but I don't have much use for him.

[Adrian II]

I haven't watched the clips and I don't care. I can guess what's happening. A debate about a different health care system in the U.S. is being killed by corporate media.

It's the same with Al Gore's views. The guy is ridiculed so the subject doesn't have to be discussed. Audiences fall for this every time. Good night.

[AntiochusIII]

I would imagine he pretty much represents whats the opinion of most Americans on this matter.

Oh God, there's a living Bill O RLY fan. Next you'll tell me you agree with Ann Coulter, right, right!?

*scarred for life*

[Husar]

I like my nanny state.

Also Adrian, this reminds me of Dr. Rath, here's a promo video if you don't know him. Claims that we could cure cancer but the pharmaceutical companies keep people sick to earn more money, sounds somewhat similar to Michael Moore in some respects. Of course he is taken apart in the media and after a boy who he claimed to have healed died, there was more controvercy. I personally don't know who's right, I'm no expert on that topic, like usual, they both seem to have good points.

[KukriKhan]

Anyone taking a shot at Wolf "I just read wut dey put in front of me" Blitzer, gets thumbs-up from me, even hysterical docu-dramatists.

And it's pretty funny seeing Fox showing CNN clips. Massive media conspiracy indeed.

[Bijo]

There will be no change in the American health care system. If there will be it will be minor and petty.

[Whacker]

Oh God, there's a living Bill O RLY fan. Next you'll tell me you agree with Ann Coulter, right, right!?

YA RLY!*

As for the censored censor that is Coulter, I simply ignore her, same with Michael Moore. I can't stand to listen to people like that, where the message might be something I even agree with, but it's delivered in such a condescending, rude, sensationalist, idiotic manner that it's not worth the time and brain cells it'd take to listen to them. Indeed half the message is not just the content but the context in which it's delivered, which more than a few people here in the backroom could stand to learn a lesson on that.



* I don't watch Willyburger's show, just jumped at the joke.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Oh God, there's a living Bill O RLY fan. Next you'll tell me you agree with Ann Coulter, right, right!?

Im not an O'Reilly fan. Hes too far left for me.

I'd definitely classify O'Reilly as more of a right of center populist. He calls himself a "traditionalist" which I suppose fits ok.

Yup and Im not saying he echoes most people on everything but he does on this topic.

[Don Corleone]

Adrian, you might have a point about stifling debate, but isn't Michael Moore himself doing the same thing? Why do we have to have one of two options forced upon us? Germany and Japan employ a system that offers some state support but could not be considered a true 'universal health care' in the British or French sense. Why aren't we allowed to consider option "C"?

[Lemur]

Whenever he highlights a problem, he more often than not looks to the government and lawmakers to provide a fix via new legislation/regulation. Not a conservative trait.

Which "conservatives" are we talking about here? 'Cause the ones I know all love their big-government debt machine, just so long as they're in charge. Reagan? Big government spending. Bush I? Big government spending. Bush II? Biggest government spending of all time.

Who are these "conservatives" you speak of, and where do we find them?

[Don Corleone]

Who are these "conservatives" you speak of, and where do we find them?

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Reagan? Big government spending.

Brought on by the democratic congress. in order to fund his military projects he had to agree to huge pork barrel projects. And still managed to bring the economy back.

Originally Posted by Lemur
Who are these "conservatives" you speak of, and where do we find them?:

[Ice]

Im not an O'Reilly fan. Hes too far left for me.

Now that's a new one.

[Cataphract_Of_The_City]

If O' Reilly represents America all I have to say is: "Nice meeting you, see you on the other side".

[Xiahou]

It's the same with Al Gore's views. The guy is ridiculed so the subject doesn't have to be discussed. Audiences fall for this every time. Good night.

Moore and Gore only have themselves to blame. When reality of the situation isn't sexy enough or scary enough they simply resort to distortion, exaggeration and outright lies. I don't think either of them are interested in a dialogue- they're trying to force everyone to their position with intimidation and scare tactics.

I haven't watched the clips and I don't care. I can guess what's happening. A debate about a different health care system in the U.S. is being killed by corporate media.

You might be surprised then. In the CNN clip, it's nothing but Moore blathering on with disjointed points in inane babble- generally sounding like the lunatic he is.

[PanzerJaeger]

I haven't watched the clips and I don't care.

I can't be bothered to familiarize myself with the subject of the discussion, but I'll do you a favor and tell you whats really going on anyway.

[Gregoshi]

Moore, Gore, O'Reilly, Rush, etc are messengers bigger than the message, which is a shame when they have a worthwhile message. Their snotty, know-it-all and condesending personalities overshadow and destroy the validity of the message.

[Adrian II]

I can't be bothered to familiarize myself with the subject of the discussion, but I'll do you a favor and tell you whats really going on anyway.

No, I made an educated guess. So far nothing has belied my guess. It's all about that horrible slob with the five o 'clock shade and his antagonists Mr B. and Mr O', not about the subject of his movie (which I have seen).
So there, you young whippersnapper.