Dog rapes child

[Mikeus Caesar]

http://www.wfmynews2.com/news/waterc...?storyid=86779

Weird, but not funny, so therefore doesn't deserve a place in news of the weird.

Bizarre story...

[Fragony]

That's pretty horrible, never heard of such a thing before. Never leave dogs with small children.

[Don Corleone]

Why did the dog survive? I have 3 and I love them dearly, but if they ever did anything remotely like this, I would beat them to death with my own two hands. I suspect they know it.

[Proletariat]

All Pitbulls anywhere should be put down. The serve one purpose, utterly unpredictable violence. Get a friggin Jack Russel or even a Retriever if you're after a 'guard' dog.

Just another reason I'm a one cat woman.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

I was always under the impression that, as fighting dogs, pitbulls were bred for agression towards other dogs, and docility towards humans. I mean, it's no use having a prize-winning fighting dog if it keeps trying to kill you. While you are going to get some members of the breed which are utterly unacceptable in their behaviour towards humans, as in this case, that's the case with all kinds of dog.

The bigger problem here is that someone would leave their dog alone with their two year old child.

[lars573]

That's pretty horrible, never heard of such a thing before. Never leave dogs with small children.

Actually never leave an unsterilzed dog with anything smaller than it. My aunt had an unfixed golden lab that many times tried to mount my sister, who was around 10 but a little smaller than the dog. He ended getting the big sleep after he tried to attack my cousins baby.

People call dogs mans (enphasis on man) best friend, but deep down there wolfs.

[Whacker]

No nice way to say it, this thread is full of ignorance.

Domesticated dogs are not naturally mean animals, like humans some individuals can have 'mental disabilities', and some individuals can be naturally more aggressive than others. Saying that any breed is more aggressive than others is a myth as far as I'm concerned, and have never seen anything other than some half-baked 'studies' that demonstrate otherwise. The meanest dog that my family ever had was a Beagle named Daisy (the only Beagle we ever had, we've always had Golden Retrievers and one Black Lab), who only lived about 6 months before she was hit by a car. She was incredibly aggressive, and would bite all of us. Mom later told me when I was older that she was going to give Daisy to the shelter in a few weeks because she wasn't showing any signs of getting better.

Dogs have individual quirks and personalities like humans do, ask any dog owner. The key thing that people tend to do these days is blame anything but themselves for problems, and an aggressive/improperly trained dog is a poster child for this. One of the reasons for the pit bull/doberman/german shepard/rottweiler myths is because those breeds, esp. pit bulls, are incredibly popular amongst the trash of society that view them as status symbols and/or 'security solutions' for their homes. In my most humble opinion, it's these owners who should be euthanised, not the dogs that are a direct result of their ignorance and neglect. One of the absolute nicest dogs I've ever known in my life was this incredibly huge, big, stupid, happy rottweiler that lived a few houses down from one of my friends growing up. You could literally run at the dog as a total stranger shouting, carrying a gun, knife/etc, and it'd roll over on it's back and wag it's tail. My brother in law has a half breed pit bull they rescued from the shelter, and it is also one of the nicest, most laid-back animals I've known. Have never once in my life heard him bark either, I didn't even think he could until I asked and they told me he could.

In short, it's all about training, discipline, and socialization. Boy dogs will tend to hump things, some moreso than others. Properly train them to respond to commands, and even a 6 year old can make them stop. Socialize them, and they won't be aggressive towards strangers and other animals. As some people here are so fond of jumping on others for anecdotal evidence like what I've said above, fine, don't take my word for it. Go read about it, go talk to animal shelter folks, dog obedience school trainers, etc. Don't blame the dogs for human stupidity, neglect, and abuse.

[TB666]

As a dog owner I agree with the post above 100%.

[Don Corleone]

As a dog owner I agree with the post above 100%.

As a dog owner, I don't. I agree that human owners not raising dogs correctly is the core issue and that's what needs to be addressed. By I don't agree that the dog is harmless and should be rehabilitated. A dog that sodomized a child to the point where it tore apart the child's anus (from what I could gather in the discussion) clearly has crossed several lines and there's no rehabilitating a beast like that.

I don't think there are 'bad breeds' but there are some breeds that were bred for energy and aggression. Let me ask you, could you imagine a basset hound doing this?

But I do agree with the sentiment that people encouraging the dogs to become violent, or allowing it through neglect of their responsiblities, should be charged as though they were aggressive or careless with a weapon in any other form.

[Whacker]

By I don't agree that the dog is harmless and should be rehabilitated. A dog that sodomized a child to the point where it tore apart the child's anus (from what I could gather in the discussion) clearly has crossed several lines and there's no rehabilitating a beast like that.

Dogs can be rehabilitated far easier than humans can, they are much simpler creatures that don't feel or understand concepts like good, evil, love, hate. I would challenge you to recognize what is essentially a need for vengance in the situation, given how I read your post.

I don't think there are 'bad breeds' but there are some breeds that were bred for energy and aggression. Let me ask you, could you imagine a basset hound doing this?

Absolutely could imagine any dog doing this, given the right (wrong) circumstances. Again, I would challenge you to recognize the prejudice of your thoughts and message. I'm not yet a father so I can't say that I truly understand being in those shoes, but *if* I were the father of the child I'd probably say the same thing as you are, but that doesn't neccesarily make it right.

But I do agree with the sentiment that people encouraging the dogs to become violent, or allowing it through neglect of their responsiblities, should be charged as though they were aggressive or careless with a weapon in any other form.

Couldn't agree more. In addition to charges of animal cruelty and neglect, which are crimes that could probably stand to have the penalties increased.

[PanzerJaeger]

This isn't aggressive behaviour, its typical male-dog behaviour. By some horrid turn of events, the dog actually succeeded.

However, this isn't an example that should contribute to the current pit bull hysteria.

[TB666]

A dog that sodomized a child to the point where it tore apart the child's anus (from what I could gather in the discussion) clearly has crossed several lines and there's no rehabilitating a beast like that.

Well a male dog during puberty has no control over it's hormones.
I got 3 male dogs myself and once they reach that stage they will try to hump anything so something like this is a possibility.

Don Corleone Let me ask you, could you imagine a basset hound doing this?

Trying ?? Yes
Succeeding ?? Not really, maybe if it got really really lucky.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I was always under the impression that, as fighting dogs, pitbulls were bred for agression towards other dogs, and docility towards humans. I mean, it's no use having a prize-winning fighting dog if it keeps trying to kill you.

Certainly, but how long has the gene pool for certain breeds been too tightly controlled and recessive-laced? Perhaps the original "formula" has drifted too far?

My mother owned A Kerry Blue Terrier that never turned the "steel blue" color that begat the breed's name. When she queried the breeder she was informed that this was an increasing occurrence with the breed as a whole. Most dog breeds are the result of forced genetic manipulation and, as such, do not represent a naturally selected genetic pattern. Such creations are subject to a different range of problems as they have not been refined over the course of time in the natural process.


Other issues:

Yes, leaving kids alone with pets isn't always wise.

Yes, proper training and socialization is important for dogs of all shapes and sizes.



Ultimately, I agree with the Don. Though I should show more restraint, I suspect that I would put down any being that harmed my daughter in such a way with great dispatch -- very shortly after dialing 9-1-1.

[scooter_the_shooter]

This is sick....what's almost as sick is that there are people, who are against killing this dog.



We can hope the two year old is still to young to remember later on.... and hopefully the family won't tell em' about it.

[Csargo]

That is disgusting. Dog should be shot.

[Ronin]

the dog is a dog....a male dog will hump air if it is so inclined.....

in the dog´s perspective the child was just another member of his pack.......this is why you can´t leave a dog with a child that is smaller than it...

the person that left the dog alone with the child is the real responsible here.

[HoreTore]

Saying that any breed is more aggressive than others is a myth as far as I'm concerned, and have never seen anything other than some half-baked 'studies' that demonstrate otherwise.

Not true. There is a variation in every specie, and there is alsu usually a variation between different races. The reason for this is basic evolution, some need an instinct to run to survive, some need an instinct to attack. Some breed have a better instinct for hunting than others, and different breeds hunt different things.

Anyway, that the dog should be put down, without question. Once a dog starts showing aggression, that's the only thing to do.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Would you put a dog down if it humped your leg? Because that's essentially what this dog did, except in a far more tragic context-a context brought about by the negligence of its owner.

[Whacker]

Not true. There is a variation in every specie, and there is alsu usually a variation between different races. The reason for this is basic evolution, some need an instinct to run to survive, some need an instinct to attack. Some breed have a better instinct for hunting than others, and different breeds hunt different things.

I'm always open to new ideas, but this is myth. Can you provide some real facts to back this up? Not just you or someone standing on a soapbox and stating something very emphatically. Show me some real scientific evidence of this, please.

[naut]

I agree mostly with Whacker.

But that woman was a fool, leaving her baby with a Pitbull, a PITBULL for Christ sake. Those things are vile and aggressive. But at least she didn't have a Rottweiler.

My advice, get a female dog.

[scooter_the_shooter]

Would you put a dog down if it humped your leg? Because that's essentially what this dog did, except in a far more tragic context-a context brought about by the negligence of its owner.

This dog did a little more than hump a leg It's not about what it tried to do or wanted to do, it's what it did that matters.

[Csargo]

I'm always open to new ideas, but this is myth. Can you provide some real facts to back this up? Not just you or someone standing on a soapbox and stating something very emphatically. Show me some real scientific evidence of this, please.

[TB666]

Anyway, that the dog should be put down, without question. Once a dog starts showing aggression, that's the only thing to do.

There is no sign of aggression here.
Since the dog's age isn't mentioned I think there is a big chance that it's in puberty. The dog's hormons went overboard with bad results.
And one question has been on my mind when I read this story and that is, how did the dog get past the diaper ??

[scooter_the_shooter]

There is no sign of aggression here.
Since the dog's age isn't mentioned I think there is a big chance that it's in puberty. The dog's hormons went overboard with bad results.
And one question has been on my mind when I read this story and that is, how did the dog get past the diaper ??

Are you saying that you don't want this dog put down?

[PanzerJaeger]

Are you saying that you don't want this dog put down?

In principle, the dog did not do anything worthy of such punishment, unless you feel humping is punishable by death - in which case we'll have to drastically alter our trade agreements with the nations of Southeast Asia to factor in the massive amount of dead dogs we'll have to export to their meat markets.

The fault lies with the parent. A dog cannot discern between good humping and bad humping, and it is not an aggressive act.

In reality, this dog will surely never find a decent home after this, and the only humane thing to do would be to put it down.

[TB666]

Are you saying that you don't want this dog put down?

Based on the article and my exprience with male dogs, I say no, he should not be put down.

[Bijo]

It should not have occurred. The truly responsible ones are the dog's keepers who -- in their ignorance and foolishness -- allowed their child to be violated. The dog creature is not to perish.

[TosaInu]

My advice, get a female dog.

Different hardware, but still a dog. Children should not be left alone.

[scooter_the_shooter]

Panzer you have a point. I agree with you to a small degree but even so, I'd still happily shoot that beast.


And to those of you who want this dog to live, why don't you adopt it. I'm pretty sure there's one family that doesn't want it anymore.

[Bijo]

This is merely a quick question: why is it that people always "neatly" use words such as "putting down", "putting to sleep", and so on, for pets that require "removal"? Why not use the word "kill" for it is exactly the action that would be performed, if it is to be. They will kill the creature, or they will not.