Unrestricted Camera =

**Baybers** · 07-11-2007, 03:52

My first post here so sorry it has to be a complaint but this is something that has bothered me since I started MTW2 multiplayer.

As I understand it restricted camera is the default setting in the game the same as limited ammo, morale etc. Why is it then that hosts (many clans included) continually turn off this default? Is this game too difficult for them otherwise?

In the days of multi STW & MTW a host doing this would have been accused of being a beginner, or worse, a Noob!

Why then not turn off the other defaults and enjoy the full arcade experience just like AoE?

**Yun Dog** · 07-11-2007, 04:00

I can only guess they turn it off so they can appraise their opponents forces and also keep an eye on how their partners are fairing at the other end of the battlefield. I suppose they would percieve this as an advantage given they are probably communicating more and have their practiced tactics as compared to their opponents who will probably be unknown to each other and are likely not to communicate much or have set plays.

My advice would be to get a mate and work out some team plays and then use the unrestricted camera against them

or not play against teams that use that setup?

Maybe a clannie can shed more light on this?

but it could be related to coaching.. that is one experienced clan member supervising the other clan members moves and making recommendations

**RTKBarrett** · 07-11-2007, 12:10

Yun practically gives the answer there... its the "norm" in clan tournaments/competitive matches these days to have unrestricted camera and its been like that since VI i believe. We dnt strive for the realism alot of the sp community do but believe the mechanics of the game such as munitions and especially morale are vital!

Teamwork doesn't just involve working in sync with ure partner, i also believe it should mean looking out for him... and u cant see something that he hasn't yet if the cams restricted

As to coaching thats another possibility, usually in 3v3s the inexperienced player may be put in the centre so he can get a feel of controlling the line and front... the flanking players can look after him too

I recommend hosting your own game baybers with the settings you like/want, i very much doubt a clannie would complain about the cam settings... florins though is another thing xD

**Stig** · 07-11-2007, 12:22

I somehow prefer restricted camera, simply because it doesn't give you the change to see my weakness (and it's big, it's me) untill we are actually fighting.

florins though is another thing xD

The lower the better imo

Unluckely enough some don't agree on that. 5000 florins, max 3 cav is far more fun imo.

**Puzz3D** · 07-11-2007, 12:24

Restricted camera was the norm in VI.

**RTKBarrett** · 07-11-2007, 17:47

Originally Posted by Puzz3D

Restricted camera was the norm in VI.

Ive been informed otherwise from cwc

**Puzz3D** · 07-11-2007, 19:24

Originally Posted by BaZZer of RTK

Ive been informed otherwise from cwc

All seven CWC MTW/VI tournaments up until the release of RTW used restricted camera. The restricted camera was also used in the CWC MTW/VI Valor One tournament played earlier this year.

**Baybers** · 07-12-2007, 01:49

If you did what you suggest you would be called a noob and few if any vets woud join such a game. Where did you get this idea from?

Sorry Gawain I did'nt understand this comment. My point is the game is poorer with the camera unrestricted as it is totally unrealistic and dumbs down the whole experience.
If a player is able to 'fly' over enemy lines then it negates deployment options, makes reconnaissence unnecessary and does not bring out the best in players. I believe it reduces the standard of play for everyone. For me, it should be the clans and tourney players who maintain the standard by always using the game defaults and others will follow.
As for florins, I now find it difficult to put a competitive army of Turks in the field at 10k. Pity, I love those green guys.