Marian Vigiles?

[Hegix]

According to the unit description in game and on the web page Vigiles are said to be Augustan units, but after Marius I get them in all non-Hellenic cities. I like them, they are cheap and come in large numbers for garrison duty, but this seems like a mistake.

Also, since Marius seemed to have removed the Equites Romanii, do I have to build regional MICs to recruit the different auxilia cavalries? I like to make my conquests romanized as soon as possible,but in that case I guess I'll have to make some allied states as well.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Vigiles are like militia spearmen / prefects / town guards from vanilla and other mods. Their internal name is augustian vigiles so that matches the description. But I am pretty sure they are meant to be there in the Marian Era, maybe there was once a plan to make two types of Vigiles...?

Romans weren't very fond of cavalry. Cavalry in a Roman army was mostly allies and later avxilia. After the Marian reform, there are no more 'Roman cavalry', you have to recruit Romanized Avxilias for cavalry (Gallia, Germania, Thracia, Iberia).

[sass]

I never could figure out why the romans disliked Cav so much? why, wierdos

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

I think it was because they weren't very good at it. Jealous, I guess.

[Boyar Son]

Romans like fighting as infantry, I guess even in there time with their wealth they thought horses were expensive

[CaesarAugustus]

Another reason that the Romans didn't really put emphasis on cavalry is that they didn't really need it. Until the late empire, the legions were (with a few exceptions), unbeatable, so ther was noo need for "Legionary Cavalry". After Adrianople, it became clear that Rome could no longer rely on the legionairies alone to win battles, and they needed to hire more barbarians who could fight as cavalry. By then, the army was mostly barbarians anyway.

[Swordmaster]

I was wondering about something which I'll ask here instead of making a new topic: why are Vigiles not recruitable in the Hellenic world?

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Vigiles are from Latin peoples. They are only available in Italy and places with Roman colonies. The Romans didn't need to send colonies to Greek regions or reform their military since they already had a civilized working system. It was just another distinction between East and West that helped split the Empire.

[Swordmaster]

Okay, thanks for the info

[Zaknafien]

Actually the Roman cavalry had the early reputation of winning all of the battles when the cowardly infantry fled from the fight. This is probably more likely because they arrived to the battle first as they were mounted. The early Roman cavalry were more like mounted hoplites, who rode to battle then fought on foot. Its only after the changes in law which allowed those without the public horse to join the cavalry that the class began to degrade, fighting without armor and with light lances before adopting greek panoply sometime after the Camilan reforms.