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    So you added Babylon and Atica to the map, may I ask what was deleted? Arabia it seems, is it now a non-province? What else?

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    I think one province was cut near Hekatompylos in the east, but I'm not sure. But, a short question to the EB-Team: What made you include Babylon as a city? I heard that it was in a state of constant decline during EB's timeframe, as the people were "deported" to Seleukeia. It says so in the description of the "Ruins of Babylonia" I think. Or did you do it because Babylon was still an important city at the beginning of the timeframe, and it is added because of your attitude to "set the tables historically, then let them play"?
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    On the subject of the lower Egypt flood, the people knew it flooded regularly, so it wasn't any real danger, I think.
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    Default Re: EB July Map and Features Preview

    it looks like both Arabia and Sahara are now non-provinces, allowing the 2 new provinces to be added
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    The reason to include Babylon was based on socio-political and economic points, which justified its inclusion. The city was still quite large (amongst the largest at our game start) and its government system was distinct and separate from Seleukeia. To put it in EB terms, it will be a Type IV with access to Persian and Babylonian troops to recruit. Also, it functioned as a major religious center that was critical for the ties of Seleukid kings to their subjects - festivals, sacrifices, etc. As such, due to the religious pilgrimages for the festivals, or even just as a tourist attraction, it was a lucrative economic center.

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    Default Re: EB July Map and Features Preview

    Arabia and Cydamae were cut. But new/removed provinces aren't the only change to the map.


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    WOW!!!
    It made me speechless....


    But then, I have a question: will the new beautiful and shiny EB require more PC power? I ask because my PC is a bit out of date and I have to take a coffee brake every time something loads in EB. If so then I'll regretfully stay with v0.81v2 and not risk a heart attack due to excessive coffee ;). It is great and stable (only one temporary CTD during 100 years of gameplay) and will have to do until I get a new PC.
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    How commoon are the disasters planning to be?Are they going to happen rarely,uncommon,or will they be rampant and destructive (which I doubt)? Love the preview though,especially the Border Trade idea.Anything that makes money is fine with me.

    Quote Originally Posted by abou
    The reason to include Babylon was based on socio-political and economic points, which justified its inclusion. The city was still quite large (amongst the largest at our game start) and its government system was distinct and separate from Seleukeia. To put it in EB terms, it will be a Type IV with access to Persian and Babylonian troops to recruit. Also, it functioned as a major religious center that was critical for the ties of Seleukid kings to their subjects - festivals, sacrifices, etc. As such, due to the religious pilgrimages for the festivals, or even just as a tourist attraction, it was a lucrative economic center.
    Are those Babylon troops you speak of avaible to everyone,or just the Seleucids?And are they avaible outside of Babylon,or are they only avaible in Babylon?

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    Awesome preview guys, really excited about this!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasternScourge
    How commoon are the disasters planning to be?Are they going to happen rarely,uncommon,or will they be rampant and destructive (which I doubt)?
    Check the preview again - I believe I put in there how frequently the disasters occur, and the intensity levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasternScourge
    Are those Babylon troops you speak of avaible to everyone,or just the Seleucids?And are they avaible outside of Babylon,or are they only avaible in Babylon?
    I can't really remember offhand. There is really only the Shipri Tukul, which can be recruited as mercenaries. The Seleukids can recruit them in the Tigris-Euphrates river area (Babylonia, Seleukeia, and Charax) from their factional MIC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus
    On the subject of the lower Egypt flood, the people knew it flooded regularly, so it wasn't any real danger, I think.
    Tigris and Euphrates - Fertile Crescent region also flooded regularly, but unlike Egpyt, Fertile Crescent floods ranged from beneficial to extremely damaging...so the Mesopotamia region would be the perfect candidate for this new flood system.
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