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I know how many Orgahs feel that anything that could potentially be used as a weapon (guns, knives, bats) should be banned outright, since we don't want people using weapons to defend themselves. Well, here, from Texas, we have a new threat to our dysfunctional utopia.... meat forks.
Get this, she wasn't even defending herself. She actually stopped a criminal from sexually assaulting a 3rd party. Shame on her! If this isn't illegal, it should be. She should have done the right thing... gone inside, called the police and waited the 40 minutes for them to arrive to give a statement. I'm sure the 7 year old getting assaulted would have been happier under these circumstances. And what about the rights of the poor helpless child she stabbed with the fork? (The assailant was 17... I always love how when it comes to making decisions like having an abortion, a 12 year old is a grown woman, but when it comes to taking responsibility for those decisions, poof, all those up to age 21 become 'helpless children').
20 years for the woman and an all-out ban on meat forks, I say! We can't have people getting involved.
Get this, she wasn't even defending herself. She actually stopped a criminal from sexually assaulting a 3rd party. Shame on her! If this isn't illegal, it should be. She should have done the right thing... gone inside, called the police and waited the 40 minutes for them to arrive to give a statement. I'm sure the 7 year old getting assaulted would have been happier under these circumstances. And what about the rights of the poor helpless child she stabbed with the fork? (The assailant was 17... I always love how when it comes to making decisions like having an abortion, a 12 year old is a grown woman, but when it comes to taking responsibility for those decisions, poof, all those up to age 21 become 'helpless children').
20 years for the woman and an all-out ban on meat forks, I say! We can't have people getting involved.
Real heroes cry "Spoon!"
Only in TEXAS. I live in the greatest state. GO TEXAS. GO COWBOYS
ive always been of the opinion weapons which have one purpose should be banned, ie Guns and Swords - im hevaily anti-weapons yet i carry a Mutipurpose tool which includes a very nasty knife blade (used to trim and cut wires) - its a tool some people misuse it but it wasnt meant to be used as an offensive weapon. A ban would be Stupid.
As for the Woman... if the story is accurate she wouldnt have been prosecuted in the Uk and we are a "liberal" haven... is someone trying to cry wolf here don?
As for the Woman... if the story is accurate she wouldnt have been prosecuted in the Uk and we are a "liberal" haven... is someone trying to cry wolf here don?
Originally Posted by Sir Moody:
ive always been of the opinion weapons which have one purpose should be banned, ie Guns and Swords - im hevaily anti-weapons yet i carry a Mutipurpose tool which includes a very nasty knife blade (used to trim and cut wires) - its a tool some people misuse it but it wasnt meant to be used as an offensive weapon. A ban would be Stupid.
As for the Woman... if the story is accurate she wouldnt have been prosecuted in the Uk and we are a "liberal" haven... is someone trying to cry wolf here don?
Moi? ive always been of the opinion weapons which have one purpose should be banned, ie Guns and Swords - im hevaily anti-weapons yet i carry a Mutipurpose tool which includes a very nasty knife blade (used to trim and cut wires) - its a tool some people misuse it but it wasnt meant to be used as an offensive weapon. A ban would be Stupid.
As for the Woman... if the story is accurate she wouldnt have been prosecuted in the Uk and we are a "liberal" haven... is someone trying to cry wolf here don?
I wasn't even talking about the UK. I think she would have been prosecuted in the People's Republic of Massachusetts.
Well, the 17 year old guy probabl had a bad childhood and stabbing him with a meatfork in the butt is against his human rights because it's humiliating, she should've called the cops and given the 17 year old the meatfork so that a trigger happy cop can shoot him.
Could a brother get a link?
Originally Posted by Don Corleone:
I think she would have been prosecuted in the People's Republic of Massachusetts.
Now now Don....I think she would have been prosecuted in the People's Republic of Massachusetts.
How else could we measure socialist public policy if we didnt have Massachusetts? Heck just today we are revamping the Auto insurance industry in MA, no more state regulated pricing, we actually are getting a semi consumer based market driven competition laden policy.
Well with some restrictions of course... You know how socialism is, yes you have options its just preselected for you.
But have no fear, she would get a fair trial here Don... I mean its Boston and she is african american, we have so few of them left to blame for our woes she would be welcome with open arms.
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Originally Posted by Odin:
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Disclaimer: The opinions expressed by Odin, are his own and are meant in jest in reply to Don Corleone only. Supposed intent, personal offense, and any other ridiculous BS that you become afflicted with by reading this post is merely a symptom of your thought processes, and not necessarily a result of the intent of the original poster.
Originally Posted by Odin:
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So, they are prosecuting the woman and her son for rescueing a 7 year old from a possible rapist? Or, is the supposition that she would be prosecuted elsewhere? Like Massachusetts or another Blues state? That's quite a leap.
Or, do we all assume that any laws restricting the use and/or selling of guns is bad? That by maintaining records that track weapons is somehow an afront to our personal freedom and will eventually lead to the banning of selling combat knives and even Bar-B-Q forks.
Quite a premise. Goes well with the ATF's attitude that States do not have the right to investigate arms dealers in other States simply because weapons sold in one were used during the commitment of a crime in the other (regardless of the number of times a dealers weapons show up).
Still, good for the lady taking action. Many wouldn't have been bothered - though the screams of a child would prompt most to do something.
Or, do we all assume that any laws restricting the use and/or selling of guns is bad? That by maintaining records that track weapons is somehow an afront to our personal freedom and will eventually lead to the banning of selling combat knives and even Bar-B-Q forks.
Quite a premise. Goes well with the ATF's attitude that States do not have the right to investigate arms dealers in other States simply because weapons sold in one were used during the commitment of a crime in the other (regardless of the number of times a dealers weapons show up).
Still, good for the lady taking action. Many wouldn't have been bothered - though the screams of a child would prompt most to do something.
Originally Posted by KafirChobee:
So, they are prosecuting the woman and her son for rescueing a 7 year old from a possible rapist? Or, is the supposition that she would be prosecuted elsewhere? Like Massachusetts or another Blues state? That's quite a leap.
No, it certainly doesn't sound like they're being prosecuted.So, they are prosecuting the woman and her son for rescueing a 7 year old from a possible rapist? Or, is the supposition that she would be prosecuted elsewhere? Like Massachusetts or another Blues state? That's quite a leap.
"They were citizens that jumped in, most definitely, and did a good deed," Joe Harn, a spokesman for the Garland Police Department, told MyFOXdfw.com. "These people are heroes."
I guess Don is jokingly suggesting is that (a) nobody but Republicans believe in self-defense or defending the weak, and (b) nanny-state liberals will now want to ban meat forks, 'cause that's just how they are.
I hear the next National Review cruise is looking for comedians ...
Originally Posted by Lemur:
No, it certainly doesn't sound like they're being prosecuted.
I guess Don is jokingly suggesting is that (a) nobody but Republicans believe in self-defense or defending the weak, and (b) nanny-state liberals will now want to ban meat forks, 'cause that's just how they are.
I hear the next National Review cruise is looking for comedians ...
Moi? No, it certainly doesn't sound like they're being prosecuted.
"They were citizens that jumped in, most definitely, and did a good deed," Joe Harn, a spokesman for the Garland Police Department, told MyFOXdfw.com. "These people are heroes."
I guess Don is jokingly suggesting is that (a) nobody but Republicans believe in self-defense or defending the weak, and (b) nanny-state liberals will now want to ban meat forks, 'cause that's just how they are.
I hear the next National Review cruise is looking for comedians ...
Three points for working in the National Review cruise, though, mon amis.To my credit, I never linked Republicans w/ self-defense or Democrats with Nanny-stateism. I think both parties have plenty of the lattter, not so much of the former. I can see members of both parties clamoring to hold hearings on reducing the threat from these new 'weapons of NVM* destruction'.
*NVM=not very much
Then my apologies for mis-reading your original post. I retract my partisan aspersions!
You're not sliding far enough down your slippery straw-slope there, Don. After reading of this shocking incident, I, as a card-carrying lefty, demand not that we ban meat forks, but that we ban meat. That's going right to the root of the problem. Without meat, there wouldn't be any meat forks.
Problem solved.
Oh, and the mother should be sentenced to 1000 hours of community service cleaning the masturbation receptacles in the sex-offender wing of the nearest state pen.
Problem solved.
Oh, and the mother should be sentenced to 1000 hours of community service cleaning the masturbation receptacles in the sex-offender wing of the nearest state pen.
Hey, for all your griping Goofy, my master plan worked. This kinder, gentler Backroom gets dull at times. I long for the good ole days of ideological warfare over Kerry appearing in a Bunny Suit for the cameras. I start this thread and here we are, Lemur armed to the teeth and you out of retirement....
I came up with this thread on a coffee break. And frankly, there's plenty of truth to it. Note, I'm not partitioning Democrat/Republican or Left/Right. As I said to Lemur, you can find the 'knee-jerk' let's-ban-it types in either party.
By the way, question for the two of you... I never once mentioned Left, Democrat, Liberal or Socialist. The two of you felt the need to defend yourselves against charges I hadn't leveled. Freudian slip?
I came up with this thread on a coffee break. And frankly, there's plenty of truth to it. Note, I'm not partitioning Democrat/Republican or Left/Right. As I said to Lemur, you can find the 'knee-jerk' let's-ban-it types in either party.
By the way, question for the two of you... I never once mentioned Left, Democrat, Liberal or Socialist. The two of you felt the need to defend yourselves against charges I hadn't leveled. Freudian slip?
I hate these stories - they never tell you what happened to the chicken being barbequed.
Did it burn? Was the fork held as evidence? If not, did she wash it before returning to the bar-b-q? Did the 7-year old eat with his rescuers?
What was the side dish?
Bah! Reporters.
(apologies to AII; just kiddin' ol buddy)
Did it burn? Was the fork held as evidence? If not, did she wash it before returning to the bar-b-q? Did the 7-year old eat with his rescuers?
What was the side dish?
Bah! Reporters.
(apologies to AII; just kiddin' ol buddy)
Originally Posted by Gregoshi:
Real heroes cry "Spoon!"
I understand the battle cry was "Fork you, pal, you're done".Real heroes cry "Spoon!"
I ain't goin' there Don. That's why I went in the much safer "spoon" direction.
Originally Posted by Sir Moody:
ive always been of the opinion weapons which have one purpose should be banned, ie Guns and Swords - im hevaily anti-weapons yet i carry a Mutipurpose tool which includes a very nasty knife blade (used to trim and cut wires) - its a tool some people misuse it but it wasnt meant to be used as an offensive weapon. A ban would be Stupid.
Ah, the anti-self defense crowd. Why don't you get a wire cutter tool on that instead of a knife? I trust then that you don't want the police carrying even a night stick?ive always been of the opinion weapons which have one purpose should be banned, ie Guns and Swords - im hevaily anti-weapons yet i carry a Mutipurpose tool which includes a very nasty knife blade (used to trim and cut wires) - its a tool some people misuse it but it wasnt meant to be used as an offensive weapon. A ban would be Stupid.
Originally Posted by :
Only in TEXAS. I live in the greatest state. GO TEXAS. GO COWBOYS
Which state can you carry a gun on your hip in plain sight; Washington or Texas? Only in TEXAS. I live in the greatest state. GO TEXAS. GO COWBOYS
Originally Posted by :
That by maintaining records that track weapons is somehow an afront to our personal freedom andwill eventually has lead to the banning of selling combat knives
Corrected;That by maintaining records that track weapons is somehow an afront to our personal freedom and
Certain types of knives have been banned because of stupid ninnies.
CR
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit:
Which state can you carry a gun on your hip in plain sight; Washington or Texas?
Virginia. And we're a commonwealth, not a pauncy "state." Which state can you carry a gun on your hip in plain sight; Washington or Texas?
Bah! We were named after the first president, not by some old king's soldiers! What other state can say that?
CR
CR
Originally Posted by Don Corleone:
By the way, question for the two of you... I never once mentioned Left, Democrat, Liberal or Socialist. The two of you felt the need to defend yourselves against charges I hadn't leveled. Freudian slip?
And when do you plan to stop beating your wife?By the way, question for the two of you... I never once mentioned Left, Democrat, Liberal or Socialist. The two of you felt the need to defend yourselves against charges I hadn't leveled. Freudian slip?
Let's face it, Don, the meme you were mining -- self-defense will be outlawed by nanny-state wimps -- is an old one in the Limbaugh/Coulter sphere. You did not specifically mention political castes, and I was in error thinking you were going there, but please. It's a bit precious to lay out the familiar framework, omit a key word, and then pounce on those who respond as having revealed the bias that dare not speak its name.
I love ya, Don, but this is a sissy punch.
And yes, I will freely admit that while I am not and never will be a Democrat, I positively loathe what the Republican party has become.
Wasn't it Abraham Lincoln who once said "Fork scores, and seven rears ago..."
Can't we just ban sexual assaulters? Over here she would be so screwed.
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit:
Ah, the anti-self defense crowd. Why don't you get a wire cutter tool on that instead of a knife? I trust then that you don't want the police carrying even a night stick?
Im against citizens carrying weapons of self defence (and the tool i carry came with the knife blade not a wire cutting tool and since i allready have a good tool i dont need to go looking for another one just to get rid of the knife).Ah, the anti-self defense crowd. Why don't you get a wire cutter tool on that instead of a knife? I trust then that you don't want the police carrying even a night stick?
Im all for arming our Coppers to the teath as long as they are trained how to use the weapons effectively (which i havent seen much evidence of)
Originally Posted by Don Corleone:
Hey, for all your griping Goofy, my master plan worked. This kinder, gentler Backroom gets dull at times. I long for the good ole days of ideological warfare over Kerry appearing in a Bunny Suit for the cameras. I start this thread and here we are, Lemur armed to the teeth and you out of retirement....
I came up with this thread on a coffee break. And frankly, there's plenty of truth to it. Note, I'm not partitioning Democrat/Republican or Left/Right. As I said to Lemur, you can find the 'knee-jerk' let's-ban-it types in either party.
By the way, question for the two of you... I never once mentioned Left, Democrat, Liberal or Socialist. The two of you felt the need to defend yourselves against charges I hadn't leveled. Freudian slip?
C'mon Don. I thought you would realize that as a lefty, I don't believe in my or anybody else's right to defend themselves against anything. Hence, you are clearly mistaken in your charge of me defending myself. Hey, for all your griping Goofy, my master plan worked. This kinder, gentler Backroom gets dull at times. I long for the good ole days of ideological warfare over Kerry appearing in a Bunny Suit for the cameras. I start this thread and here we are, Lemur armed to the teeth and you out of retirement....
I came up with this thread on a coffee break. And frankly, there's plenty of truth to it. Note, I'm not partitioning Democrat/Republican or Left/Right. As I said to Lemur, you can find the 'knee-jerk' let's-ban-it types in either party.
By the way, question for the two of you... I never once mentioned Left, Democrat, Liberal or Socialist. The two of you felt the need to defend yourselves against charges I hadn't leveled. Freudian slip?
(BTW, go have a look here https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...83#post1614083 to see what I was doing on my retirement. I almost hesitated to post the pic because I was afraid my fellow lefties might stamp "no dessert" on my ration card after seeing it.)
Originally Posted by Goofball:
C'mon Don. I thought you would realize that as a lefty, I don't believe in my or anybody else's right to defend themselves against anything. Hence, you are clearly mistaken in your charge of me defending myself.
(BTW, go have a look here https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...83#post1614083 to see what I was doing on my retirement. I almost hesitated to post the pic because I was afraid my fellow lefties might stamp "no dessert" on my ration card after seeing it.)
C'mon Don. I thought you would realize that as a lefty, I don't believe in my or anybody else's right to defend themselves against anything. Hence, you are clearly mistaken in your charge of me defending myself.
(BTW, go have a look here https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...83#post1614083 to see what I was doing on my retirement. I almost hesitated to post the pic because I was afraid my fellow lefties might stamp "no dessert" on my ration card after seeing it.)
Well turned.Originally Posted by Lemur:
And when do you plan to stop beating your wife?
Let's face it, Don, the meme you were mining -- self-defense will be outlawed by nanny-state wimps -- is an old one in the Limbaugh/Coulter sphere. You did not specifically mention political castes, and I was in error thinking you were going there, but please. It's a bit precious to lay out the familiar framework, omit a key word, and then pounce on those who respond as having revealed the bias that dare not speak its name.
I love ya, Don, but this is a sissy punch.
....and Bush and Company waltzed right into the trap laid for them by Wilson, Plame, Fitzgerald et. al (though a lot of my right wing radio folks still seem to want to argue this for some reason And when do you plan to stop beating your wife?
Let's face it, Don, the meme you were mining -- self-defense will be outlawed by nanny-state wimps -- is an old one in the Limbaugh/Coulter sphere. You did not specifically mention political castes, and I was in error thinking you were going there, but please. It's a bit precious to lay out the familiar framework, omit a key word, and then pounce on those who respond as having revealed the bias that dare not speak its name.
I love ya, Don, but this is a sissy punch.
). It's all part of the glorious game of modern political discussion.Originally Posted by Lemur:
And yes, I will freely admit that while I am not and never will be a Democrat, I positively loathe what the Republican party has become.
Don't worry. New Year's will be here before too long, and then we can watch the primary season really heat up. Before long, as Mencken suggested, both sides will have accomplished their primary objective -- proving that the other party is unfit to govern. And yes, I will freely admit that while I am not and never will be a Democrat, I positively loathe what the Republican party has become.
Originally Posted by Goofball:
(BTW, go have a look here https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...83#post1614083 to see what I was doing on my retirement. I almost hesitated to post the pic because I was afraid my fellow lefties might stamp "no dessert" on my ration card after seeing it.)
It can't be that bad, I already came across two threads where you are advertising it.(BTW, go have a look here https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...83#post1614083 to see what I was doing on my retirement. I almost hesitated to post the pic because I was afraid my fellow lefties might stamp "no dessert" on my ration card after seeing it.)
That was after my fanboy comment though.
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