The Complete EDU Guide - Discussion

[beatoangelico]

Just a quick question, isn't power_charge a BI only trait? If it is you might want to fix that in your guide as it is not marked.

By the way thanks for the clarification on the ship line.

well I've not fully tested it, but from what I seen in other mods many BI things seems to work well with RTW 1.5...not only power_charge but also legionary_name and spear_bonus_x

[KsatriyaDharma]

Hello to everyone,very helpful discussion,thank you all..
One small question that is bodering me;how to make general unit(with general) hide on battle map?I mean is it possible at all?
Thank You

[beatoangelico]

Hello to everyone,very helpful discussion,thank you all..
One small question that is bodering me;how to make general unit(with general) hide on battle map?I mean is it possible at all?
Thank You

nope, not possible

[KsatriyaDharma]

Ah well ...thanks for info

[nehanobs]

Example:
Quote:
soldier norider, 20, 1, 1
mount sauron
;no attributes


in the above , the entry norider
does this need a corresponding entry in descr_model_battle.txt?

thanks in advance

[Aradan]

Yep, it does.

[Bardo]

Using an hex editor with the AlexanderTW.exe, it is possible to view a list of unit attributes allowed by the error validator, and there are several attributes that I didn't know. This is the full list:

legionary_name, general_unit_upgrade, warcry, screeching_women, druid, cantabrian_circle, is_peasant, mercenary_unit, frighten_mounted, frighten_foot, power_charge, very_hardy, hardy, heavy, sea_faring, can_horde, can_swim, can_run_amok, can_feign_rout, can_formed_charge, can_withdraw

Does anybody know the effect of can_feign_rout, can_formed_charge, can_withdraw or heavy?
I have seen some of them are used in MTW2 but I have been unable to find his purpose, I wonder if they really have some effect when used over AlexanderTw.

[HouseOfHam]

They're in BI and MTW2, as well.

can_formed_charge: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...t=75914&page=6

Also, "There is also a new unit attribute in M2TW called can_formed_charge that I havent thoroughly tested yet. I believe it strenghtens the charge if the cavalry unit is formed up in a line first as opposed to Rtw where the charge was the same no matter what." from http://www.twmodsquad.com/index.php?...prev_next=next

can_withdraw: Most likely, a marker for units that can/cannot withdraw from battle. Might not be used in RTW. I'd suggest testing an artillery unit with/without it
can_feign_rout: ???
heavy: ??? - maybe has something to do with slower movement (perhaps, on certain ground types)

[Bardo]

Thanks for the links.
I have been testing them in ATW and even when they do not cause crash nor error messages, I have not noticed any effect.
I have not tested it properly, but units with and without "heavy" or "can_formed_charge" move and charge the same, I can't see any difference.
I think they are like other attributes from BI like shield_wall, schiltrom, can_swim and is_peasant, allowed by the .exe but not supported in game.

[MastodontfilmsMats]

Thanks for a wonderfull guide.
But I wonder, where can you change the stats of officers, generals, etc.? Is there a similar .txt file for them?

Thx