Great General(s)

[King Jan III Sobieski]

Any thoughts on the great generals of the Middle Ages? Let's start with the 15th century...(Henry V, Sulieman the Great, Vlad III of Wallachia, Ivan III, Casmir IV, etc...)

I vote for Henry V (of course, that's partially because of the bias of my historical training...having a strong interest in medieval Britain).

[seireikhaan]

Well, for 15th century specifically, I'll go with Timurlane. I'm surprised you didn't even have him on the list.

As for the rest of the medieval period, I'd like to nominate Subudai Bahadur, Jebe Noyan, and Chinggis Khaan.

Of course, I have a slight preference toward Mongol generals.

[Motep]

Richard the Lionhearted

did a decent job on his crusade

[Husar]

Ulrich von Jungingen.

[King Jan III Sobieski]

I'd probably agree Chinggis Khaan is one of the greats for the whole period.

[Conradus]

Let's not forget Bertrand du Guesclin and Saladin or Subotai and Belisarius.

[cegorach]

Any thoughts on the great generals of the Middle Ages? Let's start with the 15th century...(Henry V, Sulieman the Great, Vlad III of Wallachia, Ivan III, Casmir IV, etc...)

I vote for Henry V (of course, that's partially because of the bias of my historical training...having a strong interest in medieval Britain).

Ehem... Quite many of your examples are from different centuries... But what really wonders me is why Casimir IV is there ?

If it is the same Casimir IV of Poland-Lithuania I am thinking about he was rather lousy commander, ar rather didn't fight at all and left that work to other people.

Sure his reign marked the end of feudal army in Poland (was professional after that), but the only reason seem his defeat at Chojnice and inability to convince anyone to fight without paying them.

Actually for Poland I wouldn't dare to find a single really good commander from that time - simply too few battles were fought and those were usually works of different people - noone responsible for more than one victory.




As for some my proposals. Janos Hunyadi, Skandenberg, Michael the Great for sure.

The rest is already mentoned by other people.

Husar


Ulrich von Jungingen.

???? Any reason for that ?

Sure he was wearing a cool white uniform with black crosses here and there, but his military achivements are most likely limited to one campaign in 1410 where he failed utterly - was killed and almost brought the end of the Teutonic Order which never recovered anyway from that loss.

[King Jan III Sobieski]

Ehem... Quite many of your examples are from different centuries... But what really wonders me is why Casimir IV is there ?

If it is the same Casimir IV of Poland-Lithuania I am thinking about he was rather lousy commander, ar rather didn't fight at all and left that work to other people.

Sure his reign marked the end of feudal army in Poland (was professional after that), but the only reason seem his defeat at Chojnice and inability to convince anyone to fight without paying them.

Actually for Poland I wouldn't dare to find a single really good commander from that time - simply too few battles were fought and those were usually works of different people - noone responsible for more than one victory.

I just randomly threw him in there as an example. Of course, let us not forget that a subsequent century brought about (the last) great Polish commander...my namesake.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Ehem... Quite many of your examples are from different centuries... But what really wonders me is why Casimir IV is there ?

If it is the same Casimir IV of Poland-Lithuania I am thinking about he was rather lousy commander, ar rather didn't fight at all and left that work to other people.

Sure his reign marked the end of feudal army in Poland (was professional after that), but the only reason seem his defeat at Chojnice and inability to convince anyone to fight without paying them.

Actually for Poland I wouldn't dare to find a single really good commander from that time - simply too few battles were fought and those were usually works of different people - noone responsible for more than one victory.




As for some my proposals. Janos Hunyadi, Skandenberg, Michael the Great for sure.

The rest is already mentoned by other people.





???? Any reason for that ?

Sure he was wearing a cool white uniform with black crosses here and there, but his military achivements are most likely limited to one campaign in 1410 where he failed utterly - was killed and almost brought the end of the Teutonic Order which never recovered anyway from that loss.

Really? Alot of them were from the 15 centruy unless I'm wrong.

[King Jan III Sobieski]

[QUOTE=cegorach]As for some my proposals. Janos Hunyadi, Skandenberg, Michael the Great for sure.

The rest is already mentoned by other people.
[QUOTE]

Speaking of Janos Hunyadi, what about one of his contemporaries - Prince Vlad III of Wallachia?