Who did you like the most?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

When it came to military strategy

Sun Tzu, Clausewitz, or Antoine-Henri Jomini (my close favortie to Sun Tzu, Clause isn't bad imo)..

[Motep]

I like Sun Tsu the best of them.

[Csargo]

Sun Tzu is up there along with Henry V, Rommel, and Guderian

[Pantsalot]

I'd put my fav's (from first to last favourites) Sun Tzu, Clausewitz, Antoine-Henri Jomini.

R we able to say other war heroes as well or is these the only 3 to choose from?

[Orb]

None of the above.

I'm a Macchiavelli Man.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

None of the above.

I'm a Macchiavelli Man.

Hey,
I think I heard of Macchiavelli once or twice, but not much. I look him up.

[ElectricEel]

Hey,
I think I heard of Macchiavelli once or twice, but not much. I look him up.

I haven't really read much about military strategy, but I did find Machiavelli's works very interesting to read. At least his Art of War should be available from Project Gutenberg, if you can't find a paper version.

[Warmaster Horus]

He wrote an Art of War? hmmm...

It's not on Gutenberg, at least.

Edit: actually, it is. Under "Machiavelli, volume 1".

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Intersting. I look it up :-).

[Snite]

Macchiavelli was a philosopher who never lead any army other than a citizen militia.

I would rather follow Rommel when he was a lt in WWI, or Ceasar in Gaul, or Fredrick the Great in Europe, or Hannibal across the Alps or Captain McKinnon into a terrorist stronghold(you dont know him).

But I would rather have
Peace, One Love,
Snite

[Subedei]

Sun Tzu all the way....

[spmetla]

Ol' Machi is best (in my opinion) for dealing with coworkers or soldiers that are in competition with you for promotion. As for tactics and such, I wouldn't trust him, not that I recall there being any tactics in The Prince. Reading Caesar's Gaulic War is in the same boat but certainly more applicable for military purposes.

I find Rommel the best to analyze for armoured warfare and light infantry. He really liked to always attack, find weak points and exploit them but a strong defense could and did defeat him. For defenses I like looking at Vauban's works, though he looks into 17th century fortresses there is some usable depth in it that can be applied to current warfare styles though.

Sun Tzu is nice reading but I never really apply stuff from his book, it all seems to common sense, perhaps that's why it's so good to read.

Still planning to read Guderian's memoirs, just haven't gotten around to it.

[King Jan III Sobieski]

Clausewitz's philosophy is great! e.g.:

Defined Military Power as:
- “one of the instruments with which political power is originally created and made permanent.”
- It “expresses and implements the power of the state in a variety of ways…”
- War is “the continuation of politics by other means.”

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I wrote a term paper on him a few months ago. Great stuff, just GREAT.

[KrooK]

none of them
Sun Tzu is great but his book don't answer on some smart questions.
I like John Charles Chodkiewicz - Great Lithuanian Hetman, undefeated general of XVII century. One of the biggest general of that bloody era.

For 62 years of his life he keep winning. He died from plague during battle of Chocim when polish-cossack army defeated Ottoman army for first time from 150 years. His skills were admired even by his enemies.
Some of his most interesting victories.

1) White Stone - biały kamień; 2000 Poles crush 7000 Swedens
2) Kircholm - 3500 Poles cursh 12 Swedens
3)Defense of Riga
4) Chocim - 48000 Poles and Cossacks stop 120.000 Turks. Poles and Cossacks loose 14000 men, Turks 40.000

[Lord Winter]

Sun Tuz is deffently up their, I'm also a Lee, Mansteen and a fan of Charles XII tactics although not his strategy.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

none of them
Sun Tzu is great but his book don't answer on some smart questions.
I like John Charles Chodkiewicz - Great Lithuanian Hetman, undefeated general of XVII century. One of the biggest general of that bloody era.

For 62 years of his life he keep winning. He died from plague during battle of Chocim when polish-cossack army defeated Ottoman army for first time from 150 years. His skills were admired even by his enemies.
Some of his most interesting victories.

1) White Stone - biały kamień; 2000 Poles crush 7000 Swedens
2) Kircholm - 3500 Poles cursh 12 Swedens
3)Defense of Riga
4) Chocim - 48000 Poles and Cossacks stop 120.000 Turks. Poles and Cossacks loose 14000 men, Turks 40.000

2) Kircholm - 3500 Poles cursh 12 Swedens



only 12??


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[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

2) Kircholm - 3500 Poles cursh 12 Swedens



only 12??


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typo,sorry.


but Yeah, I still Believe in Jomini Tatcs. But Sun Tzu did answer alot of stuff, but yea, not everything,Krook.

[Valdincan]

Carl von Clausewitz or Sun Tzu.

[Strike For The South]

Patton. There has never been a truerer American. Tough as nails arrogant as hell ego the size of Texas and distrustful of Europeans and commies. What a great man

[Innocentius]

only 12??

Actually, the precise number of Swedish soldiers in the battle is known: 10868.

[King Jan III Sobieski]

Patton. There has never been a truerer American. Tough as nails arrogant as hell ego the size of Texas and distrustful of Europeans and commies. What a great man

Patton is in a league of his own; he was a great general.

[cegorach]

Patton. There has never been a truerer American. Tough as nails arrogant as hell ego the size of Texas and distrustful of Europeans and commies. What a great man

Wrong. Didn't trust the BRITISH - especially this pompous prick Monty, but was a francophile - don't forget it, please.

[KrooK]

12000

btw he took part into battle of Kockenhausen too
he commander polish flank who broke enemy
as a result
2500 Poles vs 5000 Swedens and polish heroic victory

[King Jan III Sobieski]

Patton is in a league of his own; he was a great general.

P.S. Pershing was great, too...from what I've read.

[Furious Mental]

Edward IV of England simply because he fought 38 battles in his life, won all of them, and yet gets nowhere near as much credit as Edward III and Henry V.

[PanzerJaeger]

Manstein of course..

[Togakure]

Musashi.

[Veho Nex]

i know there was a book written by Liang Zhuge that i read a while back called the advancements of war or what not but it seemed like he knew what he was doing.... though

My favorite strategist would have to be rommel

[Veho Nex]

Patton. There has never been a truerer American. Tough as nails arrogant as hell ego the size of Texas and distrustful of Europeans and commies. What a great man

he liked some english people hated the crap outa montgomery though

[DisruptorX]

i know there was a book written by Liang Zhuge that i read a while back called the advancements of war or what not but it seemed like he knew what he was doing.... though

My favorite strategist would have to be rommel

Zhuge Liang is practically a mythological figure in Asia, so he had to have done something right.

Still, the tactics he used, as well as all great Chinese leaders, were derived from Sun Tzu's work. Sun Tzu was the original gangsta.