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    WHY IN THE OFFICIAL PAGE OF EB THERE IS NOT THE HISTORY OF MACEDONIA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jo the Greek
    WHY IN THE OFFICIAL PAGE OF EB THERE IS NOT THE HISTORY OF MACEDONIA?
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    There are NO people around who have the guts to write a Makedonian history!!
    would be your answer. Its not like we are paid to do this.

    Also, unless you have a broken keyboard, please refrain from typing all in caps. Its annoying to read.

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    Where does it say that?

    Jo the Greek, if you want to learn about Macedonian history, you could wiki it, and you can check out the EB Bibliography. In it, you will find a number of books that were useful to the EB team.
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    The guy who was supposed to be working on it bailed on us a few months ago. That's my understanding of the situation at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus
    Where does it say that?
    Here:


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    Aha, I see now...

    Stupid of me not to have seen it before...
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    I refered to this because i was thinking that you maybe had problems with the modern politics in balkans (Makedonia Problem). I didn`t want to accuse
    or to show your work just by clean curiosity i post it . PEACE.

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    We have no problem with modern politics, though many others do. We study history, and to our mind that is not to be interfered with by national sentiment or the modern political situations.

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    If someone can recommend me good books to be found on pre-Philippian Makedonia, I will attempt to write one for the site. I abhor EB vacuums. :)


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    Actually, the History has been written up until to Alexander's Grandfather. Feel free to take it from there. I will do the rest in August. However, if you can write something, by all means, do!


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    Okay! Time for some research... Starting with a re-reading of JFC Fuller's Alexander treatise.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pezhetairoi
    Okay! Time for some research... Starting with a re-reading of JFC Fuller's Alexander treatise.
    slightly off topic but my god i love that sigge

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    Why does EB call Macedonia, Makedonia? always got that a bit confusing

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    Because it is a transliteration of Greek letters. Kappa = K

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    Ah, so calling it Macedonia is okay right?




    It's always fun to recreate Alexander's empire in 272.....



    EDIT- In Alexander, when he rides triumphant into Babylon, they cheer "Sikander" what does this mean? is that just his name translated into Persian (dunno if thats the actual name of the langauge) or a nickname they gave him? or somthing they made up for the movie? heh, well anyway.
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    Yeah, Macedonia is alright. That's the Latin/Romanized form with a C instead of a K. It would be pronounced the same in both languages.

    Sikander is Alexander in Persian. Greeks did the same thing with Persian names. Heck, some you wouldn't even be able to recognize.

    Interesting side note: apparently Alexander wasn't really welcomed in Babylon like it is usually depicted. I need to remember where I read that. I think it was written in a Babylonian astrological diary or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoofa
    Ah, so calling it Macedonia is okay right?




    It's always fun to recreate Alexander's empire in 272.....



    EDIT- In Alexander, when he rides triumphant into Babylon, they cheer "Sikander" what does this mean? is that just his name translated into Persian (dunno if thats the actual name of the langauge) or a nickname they gave him? or somthing they made up for the movie? heh, well anyway.
    Basically Macedonia is a transliteration of original greek "Makedonia"
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    or land of the Makednoi (Makednos= "Tall and lean" in archaic greek [or very ancient greek], and one of the theories as to why Makedonia got its name).

    Iskander is how those people today call Alexandros. Sikander might very well be how Babylonians or Persians -Abou is right here, just checked...would call him. The persians nick for him was "the cursed one" so I doubt that this is his persian nick.
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    Ah, my bad. Sikander might be Aramaic rather than Persian. Unless it was a play on words like Epiphanes and Epimanes.

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    Think he was Iskander in Persian.

    Alexandria btw is called Iskanderiya and Kandahar is derived from Iskandahar or something similarly written (Iskander's City). And Iskander is actually a popular boy's name in Pakistan.
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    Sikander is Alexander in Persian
    İn Turkish:İskender
    Some stuff of the Persian language was adapted from the nomadic Turks so i think it is persian

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    Default Re: Macedonia History!

    Here's a question to all the experts out there:

    Is there a relationship between Alexander the Great and Iskender kebab?

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    ...kebab? o.O


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    ...kebab? o.O
    Yeah, kebab. According to Wikipedia, he looks like that - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Iskender_kebap.jpg
    Actually, I can see a slight similarity between this kebab guy and this Alexander freak - http://www.ancient-bulgaria.com/imag..._the_great.jpg.
    Well, our EB experts should give us the full answer.
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    Double post, delete this...
    Last edited by Cybvep; 07-29-2007 at 13:48.

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    Mmmm... delicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turk2
    İn Turkish:İskender
    Some stuff of the Persian language was adapted from the nomadic Turks so i think it is persian
    Hence Alexandretta = Iskenderun.

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    İskender smells perfect and iso good!
    But i am afraid i never thought about the name lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turk2
    İskender smells perfect and iso good!
    But i am afraid i never thought about the name lol
    I have everytime I eat one, although my research of the history of kebab reveal no connection.

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    Default Re: AW: Re: Macedonia History!

    Oh i found it out:The answer:İt has no connection to Alexander the great!
    The answer is an other and it has nothing to do with ancient history,more with ottoman
    Last edited by Turk2; 07-29-2007 at 19:58.

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