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    Axebitten Modder Senior Member Dol Guldur's Avatar
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    Default Re: Has Anyone from EB Taken a Look at this Fix?

    I'm certainly no expert either - merely stating my observation.

    I hope we can get to the point of actually finding out what these elements do, and pin down their values, as no one seems to know.

    The AI foot archer bug would be good to overcome and, in BI at least, Darth's soultions do not work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dol Guldur
    I'm certainly no expert either - merely stating my observation.

    I hope we can get to the point of actually finding out what these elements do, and pin down their values, as no one seems to know.

    The AI foot archer bug would be good to overcome and, in BI at least, Darth's soultions do not work.
    Ave Dol Guldur,

    Firstly, let me say congratulations on the release of the current build for FATW-The New Shadow 2.0. It looks great and i look forward to downloading it and experiencing the world of FATW in the near future.

    I would like to ask you a few questions as it relates to this thread. A few weeks ago i downloaded the 1.9 build of FATW as i was curious to see how the FATW Team chose to implement "Darth's Battle AI". If i recall correctly and my apologies if my memory fails me here; In looking thru the FATW edu file i thought i saw the values suggested by DV being used or a version thereof.

    So my questions are... does the current build of FATW no longer contain these values and if so what changed the minds of the FATW team in incorporating their usage? or is the opinion you've expressed here simply yours and that their incorporation has minimal value no matter the mod or battle system it chooses to employ?

    Please understand that their is no hint of sarcasm in any of my questions. I am merely "playing" with these values as it relates to EB for my own entertainment on the off-chance i might stumble upon something that would seem to be "significantly useful" depending on the Battle AI/Formation system used---and along those lines would appreciate any insight or commentary from an experienced modder such as yourself.

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    Axebitten Modder Senior Member Dol Guldur's Avatar
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    Default Re: Has Anyone from EB Taken a Look at this Fix?

    Ave,

    Thank you for your kind words. TNS is doing real well.

    Yes, Darth made some formations for us some time ago and these would have been present in 1.9; however we discovered they were causing an issue which caused weird problems on the battlemap when a certain unit was present. We could not work out why the issue existed and so Aradan took it upon himself to deal with this problem. We gained permission from Sinuhet to use his RTW formations as a base and Aradan has been adapting them for BI and for The New Shadow. They are in the current release and no CTDs yet ;)

    As for the EDU, yes I went through it a long time ago and experimented with Darth's suggestions. I cannot say I noticed any or much difference. Those values still largely exist in some of the lines simply because we have not ascertained the effect and value of these EDU elements as of yet and so have not changed them.

    I believe Aradan and Xerex intend pinning down these details; certainly we will rely upon our own tests and investigation.

    Perhaps Aradan or Xerex might best answer this, but I can say that is the opinion of us all that the suggestions made by Darth are not verified and require independent investigation as to their nature and effect.

    Aradan has a discusion thread here at the Org in the modding questions forum, associated with the Complete EDU Guide tutorial. It'd be great to dicuss this there.
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    Thanks for taking the time and answering a few questions DG. I've been
    "playing" with these values alot recently to see if i really noticed anything different in terms of battle behavior. I've taken a faction or two and have applied these values across the board. Like let's say the Romani here in EB, then observed and fought battles, etc. I can't honestly say i've noticed anything of significance. The only thing i have noticed is perhaps a bit odd behavior depending on the Battle AI being used in conjuction with these stats but i'm not even sure of that. Hmmmmm, i don't know, it sure would be nice to pin this down as you say. Thanks for metioning the EDU thread, i'll be sure to check it out.

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