"Here, have some pretty trinkets" - Buying cities from the AI

**ReiseReise** · 07-26-2007, 07:59

My question is "When do you get mercs for gaining a region?" Three options:
1. Get mercs when you buy settlement at peace, but not when you are at war and negotiate ceasefire for it.
2. Get mercs when you negotiate for it (either buying at peace, or in deal for ceasefire) and it is your religion, none when it is not.
3. It is region-specific, some give mercs, some don't.

Details to justify:
I have limited experience in bargaining settlements from the AI as i haven't grown tired of fighting yet, and haven't tried a campaign of that style. However, my opening move as Venice and Milan is to buy Bologna for ~3500 and get 5 free xbow mercs which I use to take Florence. Anyway, as HRE once, the Moors blockaded Ajacio, landed three units, were defeated, and then desperately wanted peace after about 4 turns of "war." So much so, that they gave me Algiers in the deal (at my request). Alas, no free mercs.

Historical note:
I won't elaborate since this should be an entirely different thread on words used in the game that weren't used for centuries after. including: "ceasefire", "ambush", "Vaterland", any others PLEASE POST!

**phonicsmonkey** · 07-26-2007, 08:04

that's a good point - I remember I bought Dijon from the French and didn't get a free garrison, which caused me to lose the city to rebellion a turn or two later as I didn't have a stack close enough to jump in

is this related to the available mercenary pool in the region at the time of the transaction?

can anyone shed any light?

**SadCat** · 07-26-2007, 11:58

Never got free units when I bought a City. So what am I doing wrong? Does this require a Mod? SadCat

**phonicsmonkey** · 07-26-2007, 13:20

hmm - I am using Carl's ProblemFixerPure, but it's more re-balancing and bug-fixing than new features... but maybe that's the cause

has anyone in vanilla 1.2 experienced this?

**_Tristan_** · 07-26-2007, 14:56

Originally Posted by SadCat

Never got free units when I bought a City. So what am I doing wrong? Does this require a Mod? SadCat

I'm playing vanilla 1.2 at the moment and bought Aleppo from the Turks for a mere 6000 fl. and gained EIGHT units of Hungarian Nobles as a free garrison...
So It just be be a random event or it might depend on your rep staus vs that of the AI controlled faction... Can't say for sure except that it seems to work from me...

**phonicsmonkey** · 07-26-2007, 15:30

Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng

..bought Aleppo from the Turks for a mere 6000 fl. and gained EIGHT units of Hungarian Nobles as a free garrison...

lol, did you actually MAKE money on that trade?

**_Tristan_** · 07-26-2007, 15:34

Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey

lol, did you actually MAKE money on that trade?

Not really but at that time I had money to spare and I later exchanged Aleppo for Tbilisi

**SadCat** · 07-27-2007, 12:51

Both times I received a city as a cease fire inducement I was not of that city religion. I did not receive units. Both were castles not cities come to think of it that may make a deference? Yet every time I give one to the pope he gets new units no matter what religion it was. So what auto-garrison script are you using? If it is making it to easy remove it but please tell me its name. I may have to try it. One of the times was in L.T.C. not 1.02 if that makes a difference. I do not have the data to even try to say what are the requirements needed to get free units. Looks like some have and others like me never have. Think I need to buy a city or two. SadCat

**atheotes** · 07-26-2007, 15:31

hmm... i am playing vanilla 1.02 and have noticed the garrison/no garrison when buying cities... But i do not remember the circumstances enough to find any pattern