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    I was thinking maybe they could include another anatolian faction,like the kingdom of Paphlagonia to help pontus and the other "minor" factions get rid of the seleucids.Also a faction north of the gaeti would be nice to kinda limit sauromatae expansion in that area,something like another steppe faction.
    Since i dont know much about that area i cant say what faction could be there......


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    Scythians I guess...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    I was thinking maybe they could include another anatolian faction,like the kingdom of Paphlagonia to help pontus and the other "minor" factions get rid of the seleucids.Also a faction north of the gaeti would be nice to kinda limit sauromatae expansion in that area,something like another steppe faction.
    Since i dont know much about that area i cant say what faction could be there......
    They've already added Pergamon in that area, so there will be more minor factions there. If yet another were to be added, I think the kingdom of Bithynia or the kingdom of Cappadocia are better candidates, as their position would not be as locked as the Paphlagonians, and they were far more historically significant.

    The Scythians are quite unlikely, they were in decline. The possabilities I see in that are are either the Bosphoran kingdom, or possably the Bastarnoz, however the bastarnoz were probably not that united, and not enough is known about them, to make them a likely candidate for a faction.


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    Yeah your probably right,paphlagonia would however be a very very difficult campaign right?
    Plus what is the bosphoran kingdom? also i thought of another faction id like to see,the scandinavians.
    i know they were just a bunch of little villages but they'd make an awesome campaign on very hard\very hard.I'd also like to see an other nomad faction.something like the schytians(yes i now they had already been whiped out by the sarmatians but something similar to them).


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    [QUOTE=Cyrus;2044222] also i thought of another faction id like to see,the scandinavians.
    i know they were just a bunch of little villages but they'd make an awesome campaign on very hard\very hard.[/QOUTE]

    As a fellow scandinvian I can say that I would be horribly depressed if some sort of generic scandinavian faction was included.
    Firstly, there is about no evidence what so ever of what was going on in scandinavia at the time.
    Second, the little evidence there is all makes it very clear that there was nothing even resembling some sort of unity.
    Third, there was just never even any half-assed attempts at any sorts of expansion in any way. Fourth, it wouldn´t be a good campaign at all. Getting a half-decent economy would take about 200 years, you would probably one have like 2 or 3 units, and you´ll be lucky if the Sweboz don´t wipe you out in the first couple of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    Plus what is the bosphoran kingdom?
    I'd think that the most likely candidate for inclusion in the northern Pontic littoral would definitely be the Bosporans. The Bosporan kingdom was basically a group of Greek cities in what is today the Crimea which were united under a king. They were a major force in the northern Black Sea from the Archaic period, and were still quite strong in the EB timeframe. The inhabitants were culturally mixed, and they possessed aspects of both Iranian steppe culture (such as costume and arms) and Greek culture (Greek language, gods, etc.). Dio Chrusostom writes about visiting a Greek city on the norther Black sea coast in the first century AD (Borysthenes, which was actually a city located by a Getic hinterland, but that's beside the point) and he comments on the peculiar mixture of these cultures he found there:

    Well, as I was saying, I chanced to be strolling outside the city, and there came to meet me from within the walls some of the people of Borysthenes, as was their custom. Thereupon Callistratus at first came riding by us on horseback on his way from somewhere outside of town, but when he had gone a short distance beyond us, he dismounted, and, entrusting his horse to his attendant, he himself drew near in very proper fashion, having drawn his arm beneath his mantle. Suspended from his girdle he had a great cavalry sabre, and he was wearing trousers and all the rest of the Scythian costume, and from his shoulders there hung a small black cape of thin material, as is usual with the people of Borysthenes. In fact the rest of their apparel in general is regularly black, through the influence of a certain tribe of Scythians, the Blackcloaks, so named by the Greeks doubtless for that very reason.

    ...Knowing, then, that Callistratus was fond of Homer, I immediately began to question him about the poet. And practically all the people of Borysthenes also have cultivated an interest in Homer, possibly because of their still being a warlike people, although it may also be due to their regard for Achilles, for they honour him exceedingly, and they have actually established two temples for his worship, one on the island that bears his name and one in their city; and so they do not wish even to hear about any other poet than Homer. And although in general they no longer speak Greek distinctly, because they live in the midst of barbarians, still almost all at least know the Iliad by heart.
    It's interesting to note the dichotomies presented here: a man who customarily rides a horse around the city, carries a sidearm, and wears garb like a nomad, but carries his cloak about himself as is good Greek custom and knows the Iliad by heart. The Bosporan kingdom is interesting for this reason - the military especially included, as you'd imagine, a mixture of steppe troops and also Greek troop types.

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    MeinPanzer, thank you for that excerpt. About the Bosporikoi I would also add Thraikians and Celts (The Keltoskythai that Strabo speaks of) to that mix. Protoslavs also.

    Bastarnae, deffinitely so, add them in, but I am not certain of their exact nationality, as they probably were a mix themselves. Germanic with some Celt admixture and armed "with a white thureos, romphaia or sica and two javelins".

    Some reading for those inclined...

    http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/LX/Sarmatians.html
    Last edited by keravnos; 10-24-2008 at 08:17.


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    Quote Originally Posted by keravnos View Post
    MeinPanzer, thank you for that excerpt. About the Bosporikoi I would also add Thraikians and Celts (The Keltoskythai that Strabo speaks of) to that mix. Protoslavs also.
    I'm skeptical about the Protoslavs (I've read many hypotheses about the genesis of the Slavic people, but I've not seen much solid evidence for where they can be placed in the EB timeframe), but you're absolutely right abou, after all, the Spartocids, who were directly related to the royal house of Thrace, and Celtic influence is quite evident in the archaeology of the northern Black Sea littoral as well.

    Bastarnae, deffinitely so, add them in, but I am not certain of their exact nationality, as they probably were a mix themselves. Germanic with some Celt admixture and armed "with a white thureos, romphaia or sica and two javelins".

    Some reading for those inclined...

    http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/LX/Sarmatians.html
    The problem with the Bastarnae is that so little is known about them and their societal structure, who they were, or even whether they were a unified front at all. Also, your description of armaments postdates the EB timeframe by at least a century and probably reflects the Bastarnae after extensive Dacian influence - keep in mind that they didn't even move into the northwestern Black Sea region until the late third century BC.

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    I think either Basternae, Skythians, or Bosphorus oughta be in to balance out the sauros and to populate the NE map. People are pushing for cappadocia and aechean/aetolians but those areas have enough factions already
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