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    Default EB July New Units Preview

    Greetings Europa Barbarorum fans.

    Work is as always being done on EB and today we show off some of our latest units. Enjoy some of these latest units that will appear in next release.

    Thanks goes out to our great unit artists alin, stefan25, Xprime, and blank Please give them as much credit as possible!


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    African Forest Elephant - Qarthadastim


    Asturian-Cantabrian Axeman


    Garamantine Warrior


    Sweboz General


    Thureopherontes Toxotai - Hellenistic


    Arabian Slingers


    Pahlavan Archers


    Partohellenikoi Thureophoroi


    Cohors Imperatoria(Reskin)



    Cohors Evocata (Reskin)

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    We hope you have enjoyed this preview of some of the new units and content.

    Please note that unless stated otherwise, ALL pictures, names, and descriptions shown in our previews are works in progress. We continue to improve on all parts of EB, and we will continue to do so long after our initial release.

    Since some areas where these news items are posted cannot handle wide images, we appreciate your restraint from quoting full-size images.
    As always, if you have questions or comments, the best place to post them is here, where the EB team is most active:

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    We give special thanks to Picoodle that provides us with a simple, foolproof, and free way to show you all these pictures each week.

    Have a great day!


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    Oh my god, I have just pissed myself. Really nice preview. Now I dont know for who I am going to play in next realese. For Pontos with their amazing new general or for Sweboz with their new amazing general?

    And BTW for which faction is Partohellenikoi Thureophoroi? For Getai?

    And about that Thureopherontes Toxotai - the image name says bosphoran... So is this unit greco-scythian? I remember that someone posted here something about how Athens used scythian archers. So this will be such kind of unit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bactron
    Oh my god, I have just pissed myself. Really nice preview. Now I dont know for who I am going to play in next realese. For Pontos with their amazing new general or for Sweboz with their new amazing general?

    And BTW for which faction is Partohellenikoi Thureophoroi? For Getai?

    And about that Thureopherontes Toxotai - the image name says bosphoran... So is this unit greco-scythian? I remember that someone posted here something about how Athens used scythian archers. So this will be such kind of unit?
    ParthoHellenikoi Thureophoroi=(parthian-greek thureos shield carriers) is a unit that represents the 300.000 greek colonists who stayed behind in the area that now is Iraq, when the Pahlavan (Parthians) took over, (and ingame other areas that they might conquer too) They represent an evolution from the hoplites and Thureophoroi, to the more persian clad infantry that fought alongside their famous cavalry later on. We know that there were a lot of Greeks who retained their identity until much, much later, as Trajan fought both Greeks and Pahlavan in his conquest of the Messopotamia. Evidence has shown Greeks and Pahlavan to be shackled back to back under a Roman triumphal banner.

    They are Greeks admitted into some Pahlavan clans fighting along their Pahlavan overlords against their enemies, getting more and more Persianised as time went on.

    Thureopherontes Toxotai (thureos carrying archers) (or the famous T.. I mentioned earlier) are another "melange" unit. They are greeks, rich greeks from the cities in present day Ukraine, who got rich from trading with the mainland, but who, along with the hoplite tradition of their motherland, were also influenced by the archery of the Steppes. There were funeral steles found on present day Ukraine that have both those, thureoi and bows/arows, honouring the dead in battle Thureopherontes Toxotai.
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    Awesome! As always. Keep it up!

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    Rather, most of the people whom we would identify as these thureopherontes toxotai were more likely significantly Hellenized Skythians, not vice versa, if naming patterns are any indication. Still, by that point, Skythian-influenced Hellenes and Hellenized Skythians were not tremendously different, at least not in places like Pantikapaion. Similar I suppose, in some respects, to the soldiers represented by the Parthohellenikoi Thureophoroi.
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    I squee at the Roman cohorts! For one, a fact that shows how far EB has come is how lifelike the face inside the helmet of the Imperatoria legionnaire has become. If that is going to be what I see in the battle map when I zoom in, I am going to cry with joy.


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    Aww... I was so hoping there'd would be Keltikoi Kataphractoi in this preview. Oh well, my crusade goes on!

    Great preview guys.
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    Lovely, just lovely. A superb job by all the artists!

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    :hyperventalates: These unit are awesome!
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    Great preview, as always. A question: what kind of axe does Asturian-Cantabrian Axeman have? It looks quite interesting, although strange O_o.

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    Awesome units, really filling the map.
    Will the Carthagian elephants have archers or javelineers in the tower?

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    Kick-ass. As a true Romanophile I had to shed a tear when I saw those new skins. Superb, truly superb.

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    (The Asturian-Cantabrian Axeman are holding both an axe and a javalin at the same time, so that is why it looks funny.)

    As far as the axe goes, here is the example axe (posted by Dux Corvanus):
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    Uh... Wouldn't want to be hit with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
    (The Asturian-Cantabrian Axeman are holding both an axe and a javalin at the same time, so that is why it looks funny.)

    As far as the axe goes, here is the example axe (posted by Dux Corvanus):
    Great preview, guys, but just one thing: how come this axe's handle stops at the axe head, whereas with the actual unit, there's a bit more handle coming out through and past the axe head?

    Cheers

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    You just quoted your response, it's the javelin held in the same hand as the axe, look closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaatu
    Awesome units, really filling the map.
    Will the Carthagian elephants have archers or javelineers in the tower?
    Depends on the type of Elephant what the crew are armed with there are two crew variants javlin armed and bow armed i forget which that is tho
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    The Asturian-Cantabrian Axeman look very very very realistic and historic, the same Thureopherontes Toxotai - Hellenistic and Romans Cohors too!

    But the Swebos general looks slightly cultivated, civilized. I think that he could looks more animal and natural.

    I have one question, how the Romans Legionary carry the shield? I have read that he carried the shield from down to up (if you look on his fore arm) , no from up to down as we can see on the pictures. Is it true or not? It is not life nessesary and I cant be a hairsplitter and bullshit seeker as Sherlock Holmes was, it is only my question for forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pius Curus
    But the Swebos general looks slightly cultivated, civilized. I think that he could looks more animal and natural.
    Thanks for your compliments on the other units, and I hope someone can answer your questions concerning the positioning of the scutum. As for the Sweboz general, why particularly do you feel it is important he should look "animal" and "natural"? Even though the archaeological record from Germanic lands in the Pre-Roman period are quite scanty, the amount of good quality metalwork (chain mail, swords, buckles, fibulae, etc) found in richer contexts solidly confirms to us that the wealthier warriors of the Sweboz (such as the Family Member/General) were able to afford both locally produced metal accoutrements, and imported (and perhaps locally modified) materials, like the chain mail, sword, and helm. While Germanic kings were not living in the palaces of Alexandreia or Roma, many of them did sit on top of the amber route, and had managed to accrue considerable wealth over the centuries from that position, wealth which they used to create good quality local goods, or to import prized goods from other areas. I hope that helps, and thanks again for the comments!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pius Curus
    I have one question, how the Romans Legionary carry the shield? I have read that he carried the shield from down to up (if you look on his fore arm) , no from up to down as we can see on the pictures. Is it true or not?
    Well, I happend to carry a replica of such a shield a year or so back - and not knowing about shield-carrying techniques at al, I held it as you described "from up to down". It simply seemed to me the most convenient way of holding it, especially after I had held the cavalry shield which is heavy. Though, admittedly the replicas I held were replicas of later legionaries, those who did wear the pathetic segmentata.
    So I merely pressume this to be the way the earlier guys held their shields.
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    Indeed, see my response above :)


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    Stunning. I especially like faded-gaudy look of the Sweboz general, but the new legionaries and the Arabian slinger look very good as well.
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    SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    What does OR and FM mean?

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    OR=Ortus Romani a mod group that worked on a M2TW mod set in the Classical Period. They folded into EB a while back.
    FM=Family Member

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    Cheers, and in that case, what does "ortus" mean?

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    awesome preview guys!
    just on question: When these new romani units will for the testudo, will you see the black thing atop their helmet go through the shield (as for the post marian legionaires?

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    Congratz for the skinners, brilliant work as always

    I especially like those Romani reskins, the details are fenominal.
    Are those 256x256 or 512x512 textures that have been used?

    I wonder if Xprime also reskinned the Cohors Reformata...

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    You'll have to keep wondering. And they are 256 textures. Pretty great, huh?


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    Quote Originally Posted by locutuslavita
    awesome preview guys!
    just on question: When these new romani units will for the testudo, will you see the black thing atop their helmet go through the shield (as for the post marian legionaires?
    I don't think we know yet. They aren't in the internal builds yet. Should be in our next internal release though because Xprime is really good about uploading units and getting them to Spendios, who integrates them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Janius
    Congratz for the skinners, brilliant work as always

    I especially like those Romani reskins, the details are fenominal.
    Are those 256x256 or 512x512 textures that have been used?

    I wonder if Xprime also reskinned the Cohors Reformata...
    All our units except for the generals are 256x256. Sometimes we want to go up to 512x512, but we don't want to make the game even more resource intensive for players without super computers.

    As for the reformata... wait and see.

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