EB July New Units Preview

[ConanCromsen]

Nice Pictures! Nice Work!
When is the EB 1.0 release?

[Foot]

Nice Pictures! Nice Work!
When is the EB 1.0 release?

EB 1.0 will be released shortly after it is done.

Foot

[Swordmaster]

is the brightness level in the options menu?

It should be on your monitor.

[Hooahguy]

It should be on your monitor.

thanks- i couldnt find it on the options menu!

[Hooahguy]

ok- so before i "surrender" to the makers of this game about the plume argument, can someone associated with the historical accuracy of the game cite the source they used that convinced them to put plumes on the helmets on the cohors imperatoria?

[Zaknafien]

just some food for throught for you, I dont have time to dig into our sources right now. But you know that the horsehair plumes and crests were probably not even horsehair and were in fact fabricated much like the wolf pelts believed to have been worn by the velites and later antesignani.

however, I can tell you that the Imperial Gallic and Imperial Italic helmets had plume-tubes on the side of the bowl which could receive decorative plumes in addition to the forked crest-box holders. Now, no example of a crest-box has survived from this period, but we know they were widespread (and plumes) due to their placement on the helmets. An excellent plume tube was found at Rheingonheim, for example. Soldiers on the relief formerly known as the Altar of Domitus Ahenobarbus wear long, presumably horse-hair plumes that hang down the rear of the helmet to the shoulders.

If you read Ceasar, he recalls an attack by the Nervii which was so rapid that the legionaries did not have enough time to either remove their shield covers, nor afix their 'insgnia' , a term which probably refers to helmet plumes.

It might intrest you to know that, curiously enough, no fittings have been identified that might have belonged to a transverse crest worn by centurions.

[Hooahguy]

If you read Ceasar, he recalls an attack by the Nervii which was so rapid that the legionaries did not have enough time to either remove their shield covers, nor afix their 'insgnia' , a term which probably refers to helmet plumes.

but that was during the marian era, not principate

It might intrest you to know that, curiously enough, no fittings have been identified that might have belonged to a transverse crest worn by centurions.

o- wow- i didnt know that thats pretty interesting- thanks!

[Hooahguy]

well, i guess ill be "surrendering"....
now that i look less objectivly at it, i actually think that they look pretty cool w/ the plumes... but they look almost exactly like the evocata. was that intentional?

[Tanit]

In response to the earlier question the Garamantines are a regional and thus available to anyone who conquers Garama. Also look out because more African locals are coming to an EB near you.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

...were in fact fabricated much like the wolf pelts believed to have been worn by the velites and later antesignani.

They were fabricated? That's cool. I have always been a bit worried about the thousands of poor wolves that had to die for those velites.

What about the bear-furs weared by the Signiferes and Aquiliferes? I once heard that the Romans had a corps of Ursarii especially for the purpose of getting enough bear-skins for the Legions.

[Hooahguy]

ok- i got some evidence which proves both of us right- in the book "Warfare in the Classical World" John Warry writes that plumes were still used during Augustus time during battle, but shortly afterwards they were restricted to parades. so i guess both of us are right.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Now, that's the beauty of a topic such as 'the world back then'.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

but that was during the marian era, not principate

There are two things that make us think they probably had a simple plume well into the Principate, firstly there's not real reason not to, soldiers had been wearing sugh for centuries, secondly, we know Centurians and other Officers wore their more complicated crests. Overall the evidence suggest that they wore a simple plume, probably of undyed horsehair or maybe dyed wool. We cannot, however, say for certain. At the same time though I can't tell you who was and was not using the old Republic Scutum, it may have been abandoned around the time of Caesar or have still been in use at the death of Augustus.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Wasn't the scutum retained for cavalry auxilia, or am I confusing it with another, similiar type of shield?

[Zalmoxis]

I like that Sweboz general, great job guys

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Wasn't the scutum retained for cavalry auxilia, or am I confusing it with another, similiar type of shield?

You're confused. The Cavalry used a shield rather like a large theouros, pretty much the same as the Infantry Auxillia.

[paullus]

I like that Sweboz general, great job guys

Thanks! I hope we'll have several nice new things for the Sweboz, the general being one of the most important. Judging from your name, you may be pleased to know there have been several new things for the Getai as well.

[russia almighty]

^Like that unit in your sig ?

[Tellos Athenaios]

How come? ... What sig?

[paullus]

a what?

[I Am Herenow]

In other words, will that ginger guy* be in the game?


* An artist's impression of the aforementioned ginger guy:

[Tellos Athenaios]

Before I say yes or no, I need to know if you can find the preview by yourself. Hint: development.

[Pius Curus]

ehm...it is my small piece. I dont know what I penciled for a warior, someone could help me with indetification? I mean he could be a Samnite warior, with some equipment of roman hastat. Maybe he got this equipment after successfull battle against conceited Romans:)

[Kahju]

ehm...it is my small piece. I dont know what I penciled for a warior, someone could help me with indetification? I mean he could be a Samnite warior, with some equipment of roman hastat. Maybe he got this equipment after successfull battle against conceited Romans:)

It looks like he's passed out on a table!













Sorry. (not)

[Thaatu]

Hmm.. A self portrait perhaps?

[Hooahguy]

well, that does look like a very comfortable ping-pong table....

[Pius Curus]

Hey Kahju:) That is really cool sleep position:) I saw somewhere on web drunk positions, but you found new one:)
The picture is wrong scaned:-/ It should looks like lunge from behind the shield:)...but it should be:) Could you write me how can I place the picture directly into the forum without prolink, pls?
Thx

[Kahju]

Hey, that guy's not me! It's just a random picture I found on the Internet. When I saw Pius' drawing, I immediately noticed how the guy he drew seemed to be sleeping on a table, so I used Google to search for a similar RL picture. Unfortunately, I had to browse through hundreds of "drunk passed out hot teen girls abused xxx" pictures before I found anything suitable.

Could you write me how can I place the picture directly into the forum without prolink, pls?

Use the button on the button row. Sorry, I can't give any better advice. But it isn't hard.

[Anastasios Helios]

Sweet...can't wait for the new units to be released.

[Rundownloser]

Who are those cloaked folks fighting the evocata in the last picture? Are they another new unit?

Altogether, the units look awesome. Right out of the park.