saku recruitment

[Thaatu]

You must hold Baktra, Marakanda, Alexandreia Eschate, Antiocheia Margiane, Alexandria Ariana or Taksashila for 4 consecutive winters.

Does this mean that you have to hold one of those cities for four winters, or that you have to hold the four first ones and either Alexandria Ariana or Taksashila, or what? It's a little confunsing. The problem with me was that I was never able to build an "Allied government".

[Tellos Athenaios]

Meh: it requires Marian reforms according to the lines in my EDB.

recruit "eastern infantry agema hellenikon" 0 requires factions { pontus, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource D and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8 and marian_reforms
                recruit "eastern infantry agema hellenikon" 0 requires factions { pontus, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource D and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8 and marian_reforms
                recruit "hellenistic cavalry saka agema hippeis" 0 requires factions { pontus, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource D and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8 and marian_reforms
                recruit "hellenistic cavalry saka agema hippeis" 0 requires factions { pontus, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource D and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8 and marian_reforms

And.

recruit "hellenistic infantry indo greek hoplite" 0 requires factions { pontus, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource D and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8 and marian_reforms
                recruit "hellenistic infantry indo greek hoplite" 0 requires factions { pontus, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource D and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8 and marian_reforms
                recruit "hellenistic infantry indo greek hoplite" 0 requires factions { pontus, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource D and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8 and marian_reforms
                recruit "hellenistic infantry indohellenikoi hoplitai" 0 requires factions { pontus, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource D and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8 and marian_reforms
                recruit "hellenistic infantry indohellenikoi hoplitai" 0 requires factions { pontus, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource D and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8 and marian_reforms
                recruit "hellenistic infantry indohellenikoi hoplitai" 0 requires factions { pontus, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource D and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8 and marian_reforms
                recruit "hellenistic infantry indohellenikoi hoplitai" 0 requires factions { pontus, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource D and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8 and marian_reforms
                recruit "hellenistic infantry indohellenikoi hoplitai" 0 requires factions { pontus, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource D and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8 and marian_reforms

[Tristuskhan]

Meh: it requires Marian reforms according to the lines in my EDB.

Ah, at last an explanation.. Does it mean we can change the lines in order to get them without the marian reform?

[Tellos Athenaios]

I'd suppose so. But if you break your game, don't go and say "he told me too ".

[Tristuskhan]

Am I supposed to be stupid enough to say so ?

I'm going to give it a try, but I need to know something else, are the units valid to be trained with "allied government" only or should there be a specific building? In my campaign I was able to build "something" after "allied government" in some provinces (Kophen, I'm sure about this one). It's shown as a basic vanilla barrack, called "warning!" and has no description... What could it be?


EDIT: mission... unsuccessful, of course, it CTD'ed and complained about a missing hidden ressource. I must have blundered somewhere (probably left a space when I deleted "and marian reform" or "not saka reform").

"Hey, you told me to do that !" Anyway, my game is not ****** up, I backed up the EDU before I went playing with it.

But I noticed something odd when wandering in the EDU: Saka lancers are available for faction: "romans_scipii", not "pontus". "scipii" are Sauromatae, aren(t they? Now I know why I can't train them....

[kaaskop]

Well removing the marian reform prereq works fine for me, just remember to backup. Also my backup export_descr_building has this line in it:
{
muster_field_T requires factions { pontus, armenia, } and building_present_min_level government govnomad and not building_present_min_level hinterland_reforms1 saka
{

and again:
}
militia_barracks_T1 requires factions { pontus, armenia, } and building_present_min_level government govnomad and not building_present_min_level hinterland_reforms1 saka
{
again:
}
city_barracks_T1 requires factions { pontus, armenia, } and building_present_min_level government govnomad and not building_present_min_level hinterland_reforms1 saka
{
and:
}
royal_barracks_T1 requires factions { pontus, armenia, } and building_present_min_level government govnomad and not building_present_min_level hinterland_reforms1 saka
{

[Tristuskhan]

@kaastop: do you mean you just remove the "not"?

Did you have a look at the Saka lancers, by the way?

[Kull]

But I noticed something odd when wandering in the EDU: Saka lancers are available for faction: "romans_scipii", not "pontus". "scipii" are Sauromatae, aren(t they? Now I know why I can't train them....

I checked the v.81a2 EDU and ownership of 312 Saka Lancers is "pontus, slave, romans_scipii, armenia", which means that Saka, Sauromatae, & Hayasdan can recruit this unit. If your EDU says anything else, than you are playing with an older EB version or a player-mod with an old or modified EDU.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Or you're just confusing the EDB with EDU. And looking at the wrong entry?

[Tellos Athenaios]

Does this mean that you have to hold one of those cities for four winters, or that you have to hold the four first ones and either Alexandria Ariana or Taksashila, or what? It's a little confunsing. The problem with me was that I was never able to build an "Allied government".

Consecutive. So at least one of 'em, for four winters / years on end.