weird crusade targets

[icek]

Im at 98 turn, there was three crusades already. christians have antioch, akka, allepo, damashek, jerusalem, this hole on desert on east-south corner and trypolis. I have 7 points in papal rating and pope is my countryfolk, but i cant target muslim factions for crusades anymore. In pope's hot list are hungary, milanese and moor's cordoba but he allow me to launch it for constantinople and sofia only. I understand he protect moor's as papal allies but turkey and egiptians? Can somebody explain what happening? i wanna so much to meet as crusader.

[Zarky]

Well if there´s lots of excommunicated factions pope wants important cities to be taken from them before send more men to middle-east

[icek]

ok, but why he target Cordoba as the most important muslim city to liberate, when Moors are papal's ally and they have sardinia's cagliari that pose a threat to rome and europe even more. A little other question: are those cities in, lets call it, crusade target's browser sorted by importance? I ask because sofia nad istambul are at top :)

[Zarky]

I don´t know if there´s any meaning behind that some city is at the top of crusade list, But as you said Moors are threat to Europe, that´s why their capital should be captured by noble christians so that his holiness the pope and lift his holy middle finger to the moors at his borders...
and Cagliari isn´t a threat to Rome until turn 200 in earliest change, the forces still come from Northern Africa and Southern Spain.
I think crusade targets (other than holy lands) are capital and other important cities, big or so on.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think it makes perfect sense that the Pope would want Catholic lands to be made loyal to the Pope before more land is taken from the Muslims.

As for the Moors, it also makes sense. They had encroached onto Christian land, and deserve to be pushed out of it. Thier capital, Cordoba, is half Christian!

[ReiseReise]

Some regions seem to be coded to be crusade targets, they are always on the list and the Pope is more likely to approve your request. Jerusalem, for obvious reasons, Antioch was important in the founding of Christianity by Paul and others, and Cordoba as part of the Reconquista. When a faction gets excommunicated the Pope likes to put the hurt on them.
I found a very effective strategy playing as Venice, I allied with the Pope and let Milan attack me. Since I was allied with the Pope, Milan lost about 4 pope-o-meter points immediately and was excommunicated the next time they attacked me, I then launched a Crusade to Milan, put most of my family members in it and they got all the good Crusader traits in about 3 turns. I almost instantly had 4 generals with 6-8 Chivalry and piety (GREAT governors), and 4-6 stars each, with none of that long voyage to the Holy Land stuff to worry about.

[joe4iz]

When playing as any Catholic faction, I almost always take Antioch as the first or second Crusade. I then give it to the Pope, who will lose it to one of the other Muslim factions in the area. This generally will keep him from allying with those factions. No real Pope would have ever allied with any Muslim faction. I actually crusaded for Antioch several times before , each time I would give it back to the Pope. Since all of the Muslim factions seem to be hardwired to take it back, this cuts down on him allying with those groups.

[icek]

i never seen pope in alliance with some other muslim faction than moors. giving cities and later obtaining it back like you must do for jerusalem will get you a mayor reputation drop.

[joe4iz]

i never seen pope in alliance with some other muslim faction than moors. giving cities and later obtaining it back like you must do for jerusalem will get you a mayor reputation drop.

Sorry if I seem to misled you. I never give him Jeruselum, I give him Antioch. I have retaken and returned it to him several times. This boosts your rep instead of decreasing it. I have had him ally with both the Mongols and Eygpt in my various games. Giving him Antioch will definately put him at odds with the Monguls as they always make a beeline for it.

[Captain Pugwash]

I had a situation where the rebel/turkish towns were targetable on the drop down list but not all of them. They where all in the middle east. Allepo (reb) was not on the list as well as the place opposite constantinople (turks). I could nt understand why. It did not matter anyway as the pope wouldnt authorise a crusade anyhow to anywhere. Then Scotland got excomed and bang its off to Edinborough, i think not and no one took part