First time I checked my post since I wrote it ha.

Yeah, when I played the (center?) Roman empire, I too was like shit! Visigoths up my @ss! But the map, factions, much more brilliant than vanilla BI

I'll fire up another campaign soon, but I'm quitting smoking this week soooo.... I'm just scruging the internet for things to do till the nicotine fit wears off...

One question though. Is 7.0 and the 7.3 upgrades the lastest work?

And remember... the hippa laws apply to mods as well, no talking about other mods in other mods' forums without the expressed concent of the mod in question!! They all are good, take alot of detail, hard work, and patience, so my advice is.... if you think you'll like it, try it!! And most modders respect each other, even of other mods. (It's a guild or labor union type thing)