Maybe a very stupid question, but isn't the northpole just a big piece of ice? Oil?
And I thought it was of the Danish
Re: Russia lays claim to the North Pole
Maybe a very stupid question, but isn't the northpole just a big piece of ice? Oil?
And I thought it was of the Danish
Re: Russia lays claim to the North Pole
I found an entry in Wikipedia about the claim of the Artic here.
About the Claimants of Antartica:
It seems there could be a three way war between Argentina, Chile and UK for their claims on the same area. Germany lost their claim in 1945 and Queen Mauds Land is therefore ours.
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IT'S MINE, ALL MINE! MUAHAHAHAH!
Crazy, crazy man. Dragging Russia back to good old Soviet times and now making outlandish claims on the North Pole. What next, a new cold war?
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It's a load of polonium.
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Re: Russia lays claim to the North Pole
You cheatedEveryone knows that the South Pole is Norwegian... We planted the first flag there
IIRC claims to to Antarctica are in abeyance under the Antarctic treaty. No one has abandonded their claims, just agreed not to pursue them for a period.
Also I am sure there are more claimants than that. Doesn't the US have a claim? (And, on the basis of effective occupation, not a derisory one either)
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You brits shouldn't have used pony's, now that was pure brilliance
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What we really should have done, after Terra Nova discovered Amundsen camped in the bay of whales, was land and kill the lot. Who would have known?You brits shouldn't have used pony's, now that was pure brilliance
That's what Putin would do.
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What we should have done is sent Shackleton not Scott - the real explorer instead of the enthusiastic amateur.You brits shouldn't have used pony's, now that was pure brilliance
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I think the Org should claim the South Pole. We could ally with the Octosquids and they would protect us from invasions.
I'm lately turning nationalistic in the Org sense.
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No one is getting anything. This territory is a location of a future U.S. missle defense site.
An air craft carrier must be dispatched immediately....
There are few things more annoying than some idiot who has never done anything trying to say definitively how something should be done.
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UK doesn't claim it, the Southpole is divided between UK and Norway (for both exploring it), Australia and New Zeeland (for being close to it) and France (for thinking they should have a share in it anyway)It seems there could be a three way war between Argentina, Chile and UK for their claims on the same area. Germany lost their claim in 1945 and Queen Mauds Land is therefore ours.
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Well, the ice in my freezer is mine, so don't any of you Europeans get any funny ideas...
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I've just thought, the Top Gear guys drove to the North Pole recently, doesn't that make it British?
Admittedly the maniacs behind the plan seemed to be Icelandic (there's a surprise) but we could share.
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They can claim the Northpole,but what is this talk about santaclaus? He is from Finland. There is no sense claiming that the old bugger lives in northpole when its clear that he lives in korvatunturi!
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Finland, Northpole, it's all the same, both places have loads of nice and open lakes
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I think we should claim all of it and call it "Süderweiterung". After all we have a history of colonizing useless land, don't we?
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This thread, apart from the fact that Putin is an...well...communist i******e...is a very funny one. Cracks me up.
Ok, back to serious business.
How the ice could you possibly claim North Pole? The Russkies haven't even discovered it!!
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Re: Russia lays claim to the North Pole
Okay.
So lets assume for a minute that infact there is a cache of oil and natural gas there (anyone got the time to dig up a link to some specifics?), this is quite a bold move on Russia's part.
We all know the state of oil and gas consumption and the likely hood of its prolonged need for decades to come. Russia is a major fuel supplier to Europe now, and should they get this cache that increases thier clout.
While its fun to yuk it up with putin and his power grabs, this strikes me as an intelligent tactial move if in fact the cache is there. The theory is that the siberian land shelf (are my terms correct?) extend under the ice, and therefore it extends the russian land claim until that point.
If this is true, then concievably the claim is valid.
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Putin can plant as many flags he wants and it won't make a difference. But Im sure it pleases his most nationalistic voters at home.
Russia ratified the UN treaty in 1997 and had 10 years to make a claim, so it had to be done this year or not at all. Canada and Denmark still has 6 and 7 years. And of course USA has not even ratified it yet.
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Okay, but this dosent make the claim invalid, on the contrary they have made the appropriate claims in the time frame alotted via the treaty (if I am reading you correctly).
Sounds like a sound move to me, if its within the specs of the agreement.
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And their behavior managing those resources thus far is reason enough to be opposed to to their new "land" grab, imo.
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Not to worry friends.
The Russians needs help from those who knows how to drill for oil in the sea. They have nearly no experience in this and are today receiving help from us. My company has just entered into a contract with Russia for drilling on the Shtokman field in the Barents Sea.
The Russian government have demanded higher environmental standards than the Norwegians did on the Norwegian fields in the same area. Our company will be using zero-emission technology on this one. The wildlife in the Barents Sea is a very important resource for the Russians. You can’t pollute much in these regions and not affect the fish stock. I am guessing this goes for the entire Artic area.
On a side note: Why haven’t the US made claims to the North Pole yet? They were the first and second to reach the Pole.
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Well yes Putin is nationalizing the fuel industries and using it as a policial tool. My memory of last winter seems to recall the issue with Ukraine and short deliveries to the EU (long night last night)?
All that aside, this is a very bold and well frankly good move for Russian intrests. Attempting to secure more claims over natural gas and oil is tactically sound.
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[QUOTE=Fragony]Maybe a very stupid question, but isn't the northpole just a big piece of ice? Oil?
Yep just ice but under that ice lays the sea floor full with that slimy black stuff that our economies seems to live off.
And again Belgium really has a claim for a small part of Antartica by the merit of exploration and a lasting base there.
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