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    Show me evidence that they did have imitation legions and I will get that done. Otherwise, show a bit more respect to those cultures who were debased by Roman misunderstanding and propaganda.

    Damn them and their literature!

    Foot
    indeed, damn them!
    what more respect can i show if i am a descendant of one of those very cultures

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarkiss
    indeed, damn them!
    what more respect can i show if i am a descendant of one of those very cultures
    Look further than roman authors. Armenia is a big black hole of information for this period, but their is evidence beyond the romans of Armenia's place in the world back then.

    If you can get a hold of it, The Peoples of the Hills, by Burney and Lang is a great read. I even managed to get a signed first edition!

    Redgate's "The Armenians" is also not too bad, and I'm a big fan of Chahin and his book "The Kingdom of Armenia". Only a critical appreciation of the roman texts (or any of the primary texts relating to that period) will give any worthy information on the subject. Also, try getting a hold of a copy of Movses Khorenats'i's book then you should definitely read that as well.

    Information is poor, but it is out there. And most of the authors writing on Armenian history now are very critical of the primary roman and greek texts of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foot
    Look further than roman authors. Armenia is a big black hole of information for this period, but their is evidence beyond the romans of Armenia's place in the world back then.

    If you can get a hold of it, The Peoples of the Hills, by Burney and Lang is a great read. I even managed to get a signed first edition!

    Redgate's "The Armenians" is also not too bad, and I'm a big fan of Chahin and his book "The Kingdom of Armenia". Only a critical appreciation of the roman texts (or any of the primary texts relating to that period) will give any worthy information on the subject. Also, try getting a hold of a copy of Movses Khorenats'i's book then you should definitely read that as well.

    Information is poor, but it is out there. And most of the authors writing on Armenian history now are very critical of the primary roman and greek texts of the time.

    Foot
    yep.
    i read Movses Khorenatsi, currently reading Chahin's "The Kingdom of Armenia".
    what exactly "the Peoples of the hills" is about?
    there are also works of Nicolay Adontz - "The peasantry of Ancient Armenia", "The Art of Dionysius Grammarian and his Armenian Interpretations", "Political parties in Ancient Armenia" and "Armenia in the period of Justinian".

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    Should Pontus being getting Theuropoi and Thoraktai ? Yeah I know I butchered the spelling .


    Join the Army: A Pontic AAR
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    They already have Thureophoroi through their regional MIC. They will be getting a Thorakitai unit, but it won't be the same as the Hellenistic factions.

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    If it isn't a secret how will it be different ?


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    Eh, I'll keep you in suspense... mainly becuase I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abou
    ... They will be getting a Thorakitai unit...
    Towards the end of the book, the Moties quote an old story from Herodotus:

    "Once there was a thief who was to be executed. As he was taken away he made a bargain with the king: In one year he would teach the king's favorite horse to sing hymns."
    "The other prisoners watched the thief singing to the horse and laughed. 'You will not succeed,' they told him. 'No one can.' To which the thief replied, 'I have a year, and who knows what will happen in that time. The king might die. The horse might die. I might die. And perhaps the horse will learn to sing.'"

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    didnt roman deserters train pontus or armenian soldiers? its been awhile since ive read about the campaign involving Pompey etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abou
    ... They will be getting a Thorakitai unit, but it won't be the same as the Hellenistic factions.
    to pester you once more, but the Pontic unit, will it be a "Thorakitai" or a "Thorakitai Argyraspidai" (uff, got it)?

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    Towards the end of the book, the Moties quote an old story from Herodotus:

    "Once there was a thief who was to be executed. As he was taken away he made a bargain with the king: In one year he would teach the king's favorite horse to sing hymns."
    "The other prisoners watched the thief singing to the horse and laughed. 'You will not succeed,' they told him. 'No one can.' To which the thief replied, 'I have a year, and who knows what will happen in that time. The king might die. The horse might die. I might die. And perhaps the horse will learn to sing.'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treverer
    ... "Thorakitai Argyraspidai"...
    You wish!

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