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    Default Happy Cannae Day

    Celebrating the slaughter of Rome's invincible legions by outnumbered Carthaginians since 216 B.C.
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    I love this forum .

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    Ditto!

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    LoL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urnamma
    Celebrating the slaughter of Rome's invincible legions by outnumbered Carthaginians since 216 B.C.
    omg eb u haet romans

    just kidding

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    is there any reason for celebrating this event? of course, its a historical battle, worth to remind of...

    and how about a little presentation, what kind of units participated, the process of the battle, who was in command etc.

    i mean, would be very interesting.
    I like to conquer.



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    too late! its already over!

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    then may you have a happy day after Cannae day a day long remembered by carrion feeders everywhere

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    soon we must celebrate the battle of ZAMA were the invincible legion slaughtered the invicible hannibal
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    A mini presentation on Cannae would most certainly take a very long time indeed to present. XD The shortest one of any detail whatsoever would be one VERY long forum post indeed. XD


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    Palasta,

    There's more than enough information at your fingertips to help you learn about the battle of Cannae...Wikipedia's entry is a good place to start. For books on the subject, Daly's "Cannae: The Experience of Battle in the Second Punic War" and Goldworthy's "Cannae" are recommended...go for it!
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    I prefer Carrahe (SP?) when 11,0000 outnumbered Persian cataphracts and composite horse archers slaugtered 35,000 Post-Marian legionaries and their auxillaries.
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    I like Cannae better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intranetusa
    I prefer Carrahe (SP?) when 11,0000 outnumbered Persian cataphracts and composite horse archers slaugtered 35,000 Post-Marian legionaries and their auxillaries.
    yes, but while they were outnumbered, IIRC, the romans had little or no cavalry to chase the HA (they were killed off earlier on in the battle by the parthian cataphracts) and the HA just did hit and run attacks until the romans were defeated.
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    In October we can all look forward to Teutoburg Day. (No, not Thanksgiving, Teutoburg).

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy14
    yes, but while they were outnumbered, IIRC, the romans had little or no cavalry to chase the HA (they were killed off earlier on in the battle by the parthian cataphracts) and the HA just did hit and run attacks until the romans were defeated.
    Yes. Textbook example of all-cavalry warfare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus
    In October we can all look forward to Teutoburg Day. (No, not Thanksgiving, Teutoburg).
    ur a bad, bad roman, arent you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus
    In October we can all look forward to Teutoburg Day. (No, not Thanksgiving, Teutoburg).
    <evil grin>

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    by a fictional (or not ?) Roman general of / from Iberia.

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    by a friend of mine.
    Towards the end of the book, the Moties quote an old story from Herodotus:

    "Once there was a thief who was to be executed. As he was taken away he made a bargain with the king: In one year he would teach the king's favorite horse to sing hymns."
    "The other prisoners watched the thief singing to the horse and laughed. 'You will not succeed,' they told him. 'No one can.' To which the thief replied, 'I have a year, and who knows what will happen in that time. The king might die. The horse might die. I might die. And perhaps the horse will learn to sing.'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krusader
    Yes. Textbook example of all-cavalry warfare
    Textbook example of cowardness!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Treverer
    by a fictional (or not ?) Roman general of / from Iberia.
    Fictional, "Maximus" was "Emperor of Britain" a few hundred years later. Maximus Decimus Meridius, or Decimus Meridius Maximus to untangle his name, is a composite of several Roman generals and Emperors, including Marcus Auralius himself.

    Ironic eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy14
    yes, but while they were outnumbered, IIRC, the romans had little or no cavalry to chase the HA (they were killed off earlier on in the battle by the parthian cataphracts) and the HA just did hit and run attacks until the romans were defeated.
    the Romans never had good heavy cavalry (RTW's uber praetroian cavalry is mythical bullsh**)...so that's their own damn fault. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by abou
    Ehmm, myself being a "fool" concerning latin (never went past 2 sessions of that language at university and happy to study MODERN history, where you did not need latin ), I agree to whatever someone says how is fluent in it ...

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    Towards the end of the book, the Moties quote an old story from Herodotus:

    "Once there was a thief who was to be executed. As he was taken away he made a bargain with the king: In one year he would teach the king's favorite horse to sing hymns."
    "The other prisoners watched the thief singing to the horse and laughed. 'You will not succeed,' they told him. 'No one can.' To which the thief replied, 'I have a year, and who knows what will happen in that time. The king might die. The horse might die. I might die. And perhaps the horse will learn to sing.'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intranetusa
    the Romans never had good heavy cavalry (RTW's uber praetroian cavalry is mythical bullsh**)...so that's their own damn fault. :)
    Not quite true, the later Cataphracts etc were excellant heavy cavalry which blended the best of Greek and Eastern cavalry traditions. Even the Germano-Celtic Auxillia Alae were excellant medium cavalry. Crassus sepperated his force and allowed his cavalry to move too far ahead.

    It was his own fault.
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    Don't forget the Extraordinarii.

    Although, they would only form a fraction of the entire cavalry force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla
    Not quite true, the later Cataphracts etc were excellant heavy cavalry which blended the best of Greek and Eastern cavalry traditions. Even the Germano-Celtic Auxillia Alae were excellant medium cavalry. Crassus sepperated his force and allowed his cavalry to move too far ahead.

    It was his own fault.

    Are you refering to the Eastern Roman Empire or the Byzantine Empire? The Byzantines may have been highly influenced by the Romans, but they are a separate civilzation.

    and you mean Macedonian-Greeks right? since as EB proves, the Greek-Greeks had the worst cavalry ever...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intranetusa
    Are you refering to the Eastern Roman Empire or the Byzantine Empire? The Byzantines may have been highly influenced by the Romans, but they are a separate civilzation.

    and you mean Macedonian-Greeks right? since as EB proves, the Greek-Greeks had the worst cavalry ever...




    I'd take Hippies over German cavalry anyday....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla
    Maximus Decimus Meridius, or Decimus Meridius Maximus
    Hollywood is really bad.

    Maximus = audience has to realize he is a great man, as great men always have great names, everyone knows this

    Decimus = audience has to realize he is a Roman, some people might have misunderstood the timeframe the movie takes place

    Meridius = audience (the ones with IQ 90+) can recognize that he is seemingly of Mérida, as he is called "Spaniard" in the movie - too bad the city's name was Emerita Augusta at the time

    Or does "Meridius" mean something different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoofa



    I'd take Hippies over German cavalry anyday....
    I'd prefer the Germans, as the Hippies are well known for the quite counterproductive behaviour of making love, not war when encountering the enemy...

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    touche... (with accent mark over e)




    damn those hippies.....

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