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    so can Pontus build them or not, and if not what file do i edit to fix it? will it be save game compatible?
    thanks

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    You want to search export_descr_buildings.txt for this line and modify it to allow for Pontus. Is that carthage? I forget.

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            paved_roads requires factions { romans_brutii, egypt, numidia, thrace, greek_cities, macedon, romans_julii, seleucid, parthia, romans_scipii, gauls, scythia, } and not hidden_resource nopavedroads and building_present_min_level government gov4

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    Quote Originally Posted by bovi
    You want to search export_descr_buildings.txt for this line and modify it to allow for Pontus. Is that carthage? I forget.

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            paved_roads requires factions { romans_brutii, egypt, numidia, thrace, greek_cities, macedon, romans_julii, seleucid, parthia, romans_scipii, gauls, scythia, } and not hidden_resource nopavedroads and building_present_min_level government gov4
    thanks.
    why cant they build them in the first place? is it fixed in the next build? will the change be save game compatible?

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    Theres a thread about this somewhere......somewhere.....

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    Default Re: paved roads for Pontus

    I don't know why as I'm not a historian, and can't be bothered to search the forum. The change is savegame compatible.

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    Seems to me the general consensus was that they are too barbaric to build them. The main roads they used were already established.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazius
    Seems to me the general consensus was that they are too barbaric to build them. The main roads they used were already established.
    hm, ok... i'll have to change it myself then. so, is it Carthage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarkiss
    hm, ok... i'll have to change it myself then. so, is it Carthage?
    From a fan of Pontos:

    defenitly, 100% and absolut YES!!

    player faction "Pontos" = engine faction "carthage"

    BTW, if you want your Faction leaders have the "Faction leader trait", take a look at thread "Pontic Faction leader trait" (somewhat below this one, maybe on side 2 already).

    Yours,
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    Towards the end of the book, the Moties quote an old story from Herodotus:

    "Once there was a thief who was to be executed. As he was taken away he made a bargain with the king: In one year he would teach the king's favorite horse to sing hymns."
    "The other prisoners watched the thief singing to the horse and laughed. 'You will not succeed,' they told him. 'No one can.' To which the thief replied, 'I have a year, and who knows what will happen in that time. The king might die. The horse might die. I might die. And perhaps the horse will learn to sing.'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treverer
    From a fan of Pontos:

    defenitly, 100% and absolut YES!!

    player faction "Pontos" = engine faction "carthage"

    BTW, if you want your Faction leaders have the "Faction leader trait", take a look at thread "Pontic Faction leader trait" (somewhat below this one, maybe on side 2 already).

    Yours,
    Treverer
    thanks.
    seems rather weird that barbarians can build paved roads, but Pontus cant. hope it'll all gets fixed in the next build.

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    Default Re: paved roads for Pontus

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarkiss
    so can Pontus build them or not, and if not what file do i edit to fix it? will it be save game compatible?
    thanks
    That is weird... I haven't played Pontus extensively, but I'm positive that they actually should be able to build paved roads; After all claiming descent of Achaemenids who built the Royal Road and not being able to lay some rocks on a road seems more like a mistake than intended... I'll hear with the rest of the team


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Persian Cataphract
    That is weird... I haven't played Pontus extensively, but I'm positive that they actually should be able to build paved roads; After all claiming descent of Achaemenids who built the Royal Road and not being able to lay some rocks on a road seems more like a mistake than intended...
    thats what i thought too.
    thanks

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    Question Re: paved roads for Pontus

    Concerning the topic, I've had this idea - but I do not know if it technically (via the engine) possible:

    - paved roads yes, but after one city upgade later than usual.
    - an other possibility: limit paved roads and highways to certain provinces (and / and not certain factions).

    What do you, either gamers or developpers think about these proposals?

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    Towards the end of the book, the Moties quote an old story from Herodotus:

    "Once there was a thief who was to be executed. As he was taken away he made a bargain with the king: In one year he would teach the king's favorite horse to sing hymns."
    "The other prisoners watched the thief singing to the horse and laughed. 'You will not succeed,' they told him. 'No one can.' To which the thief replied, 'I have a year, and who knows what will happen in that time. The king might die. The horse might die. I might die. And perhaps the horse will learn to sing.'"

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    Default Re: paved roads for Pontus

    Quote Originally Posted by Treverer
    - paved roads yes, but after one city upgade later than usual.
    Why do you want this special requirement for Pontus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Treverer
    - an other possibility: limit paved roads and highways to certain provinces (and / and not certain factions).
    We already have both of these .

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    I meant that first point not only for Pontos, but a general 'rule' for factions with less craftship / engineership concerning roads. Sorry not to have made it clear in the original post.

    Edit: by that way, one could get a compromise between less craftship & getting the paved nevertheless. Though I see the problem of "Ahistoricism" (word ???) ....
    Last edited by Treverer; 08-05-2007 at 12:19.
    Towards the end of the book, the Moties quote an old story from Herodotus:

    "Once there was a thief who was to be executed. As he was taken away he made a bargain with the king: In one year he would teach the king's favorite horse to sing hymns."
    "The other prisoners watched the thief singing to the horse and laughed. 'You will not succeed,' they told him. 'No one can.' To which the thief replied, 'I have a year, and who knows what will happen in that time. The king might die. The horse might die. I might die. And perhaps the horse will learn to sing.'"

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