Pedites Extraordinarii more expensive than Samnite Infantry, but weaker?

[Aramazon]

Hi everyone! A little thing thats been bugging me recently is that when looking at my recruitment options there are the pedites extraordinarii as well as the samnite heavy infantry, the extraordinarii have more expensive upkeep, but the infantry has better defense. So now I'm wondering what makes the extraordinarii worth more than the infantry, could it be the morale? In addition to that, I'm curious as to how the defense points work in game. I mean is it purely who has the most points or does it make a difference whether it's armor, shield, or skill?


-Aramazon

[Dyabedes of Aphrodisias]

Hi everyone! A little thing thats been bugging me recently is that when looking at my recruitment options there are the pedites extraordinarii as well as the samnite heavy infantry, the extraordinarii have more expensive upkeep, but the infantry has better defense. So now I'm wondering what makes the extraordinarii worth more than the infantry, could it be the morale? In addition to that, I'm curious as to how the defense points work in game. I mean is it purely who has the most points or does it make a difference whether it's armor, shield, or skill?


-Aramazon

I didn't get that either, but they always seem to be evenly matched in battle, so the Extraordinarii must have some stat that justifies it.

But I love my Samnites. I buy every one I can find.

Yes, the different defence stats do matter. Shield protects the front left, armor is overall protection and defence skill determines how likely the enemy is to get a lethal hit I think.

[Intranetusa]

Those two units look exactly the same except for uniform colors and shield emblems. Samnite has a tri-wing design while Pedite has an eagle.


I actually think the Samnite Millites/Infantry is stronger than Pedites...but I get both cuz Samnite is more readily avaliable (plentiful merc unit in Italy) while Pedites are retrainable.

[Dyabedes of Aphrodisias]

Those two units look exactly the same except for uniform colors and shield emblems. Samnite has a tri-wing design while Pedite has an eagle.


I actually think the Samnite Millites/Infantry is stronger than Pedites...but I get both cuz Samnite is more readily avaliable (plentiful merc unit in Italy) while Pedites are retrainable.

The Samnitici Milites are retrainable as well, so there's no need to use the Pedites Extraordinarii at all, especially because of their expense. The Pedites do look a little sexier, though.

[LordCurlyton]

Yes, but only in a camillan MIC. And frankly, keeping those around after the polybians hit is just plain wrong.

[Dyabedes of Aphrodisias]

Yes, but only in a camillan MIC. And frankly, keeping those around after the polybians hit is just plain wrong.

Aw, seriously? Damn...I didn't even notice that...

[Morte66]

Yes, but only in a camillan MIC. And frankly, keeping those around after the polybians hit is just plain wrong.

I'm playing the Averni, and I conquered the Romani in the 260s. It's now almost 250 and I've got a level 4 regional MIC building in Capua which will turn out Samnite heavy infantry in a few turns. I'm hoping it'll keep working indefinitely -- after all, Polybius never reformed the Averni military machine.

Does anybody know if I can assume that the Polybians won't happen to the Averni?

[Hooahguy]

Yes, but only in a camillan MIC. And frankly, keeping those around after the polybians hit is just plain wrong.

i left Arpi without the upgraded MIC, so i could still retrain my camillian units.

[Intranetusa]

The Samnitici Milites are retrainable as well, so there's no need to use the Pedites Extraordinarii at all, especially because of their expense. The Pedites do look a little sexier, though.

Umm, I don't think so. I can only get the Samnite Infantry through buying mercs. I'm talking about the heavy infantry with the big bronze shields, not the samnite spearmen by the way.

I have both polybian and camillian barracks at the highest & 2nd highest lvls in Italy, and I can only train Pedites Extrandanrii and not Samnite Heavy Infantry.

[CaesarAugustus]

I can recruit and retrain the Samnite Heavy Infantry in Arpi.

[Dyabedes of Aphrodisias]

Umm, I don't think so. I can only get the Samnite Infantry through buying mercs. I'm talking about the heavy infantry with the big bronze shields, not the samnite spearmen by the way.

I have both polybian and camillian barracks at the highest & 2nd highest lvls in Italy, and I can only train Pedites Extrandanrii and not Samnite Heavy Infantry.

Yeah, I'm talking about the swordsmen with the tri-thing on their golden shield. You can recruit and retrain them in Capua and Arpi with the highest Camillan MIC.

[blacksnail]

So now I'm wondering what makes the extraordinarii worth more than the infantry, could it be the morale?

Inflation!

[Spoofa]

Well, they appear lavishly equipped. (aka spoiled) hence the increased cost? I'm just taking a poke at it...

[Intranetusa]

Well, they appear lavishly equipped. (aka spoiled) hence the increased cost? I'm just taking a poke at it...

Yup...instead of the Samnite's bronze plate shields, the Pedites plate their shield with gold leaf... >_<