My first win with more than 10:1 ratio

[dknight]

OMG, this is the first time I pull-off such a favorable win ratio. Most of the time, I win with 3:1/4:1/2:1 or even 1:1 ration. The enemy is mostly peasant, and some mounted sergeants. I had 4 horse archers (turcoman & steppe) plus about 2 turcoman foots. The hills make a big different, as the arrow is more effective, then the enemy just broke climbing the hill under whithering fire. After a while, I move my horse archers behind them and start to rush close in, while having the JHI charge down. That did it for the first groups, and the enemy general. Later wave just try to chase the HA and get captured

[seireikhaan]

Good job! However, I must say one thing, though: peasants are absolutely god awful. Especially in comparison to your excellent troop roster, and the fact that you seem to have had a good general and you were defending. I'm not trying to be a party pooper, because that ratio is indeed excellent, its just that you had such a massive advantage on them that it hardly surprises me.

[Innocentius]

I'm not trying to be a party pooper, because that ratio is indeed excellent, its just that you had such a massive advantage on them that it hardly surprises me.

On the other hand, half of winning a battle is having the advantage

[Tratorix]

Nice job!

I think my best ratio was probably around 5:1. What faction was it that you so easily crushed?

[Innocentius]

BTW, dknight, your win ratio in the battle above is actually something like 41.23076923:1. My first battle where I clearly achieved a 10:1 victory was after slaughtering some rebels in Livonia as the Danes long ago, although the pic remains somewhere in the Pics & history of your empire thread. Interestingly enough it was a perfect 10:1 victory, 69 casualties sustained, 690 casualties inflicted. I was rather horrible at fighting back then so I must've been in a way superior position.

[dknight]

Hehehe... I don't mind your reminding of balance of force, greaterkhaan. I am just excited because this is the first time I had such a favorable ratio. I am really not good with the battle, as I often get into hand-to-hand dirty fighting before my archer can do enough damage. Even in this one, my JHI had to get into quite an unfavorable fight for a while, what with several units of peasan and guards attack the flank of my charging JHI. They even have 3 mounted sergeans charging in as well, one of them the generals. That's where most of the damage occurs.

@Brave_Sir_Robin: this is against a Portuguese rebellion. My general is the leading general for this front, who just happen to be nearby. I actually had the largest army, but most of them stucked at containing the Golden Horde, and I am having some trouble with my economy, so there aren't more JHI, and the available JHI aren't even properly armored.

[Martok]

Nice victory dknight, even if it was over mostly peasant rabble. You know what they say -- a win is a win. Heck, I doubt I myself have ever achieved even a 5-to-1 victory; I'm not a very good field commander, so my victories usually aren't that lopsided.

[Agent Miles]

Now when you get 130:1. This was more shooting fish in a barrel. Congratulations on your real battle.

[Martok]

Woah, Agent Miles. How'd you get a kill ratio like that? Did you have the enemy that vastly outnumbered?

[dknight]

Agent Miles, that's amazing. What's your opponent like ? How did it happen ? Can you recount the battle a bit ?

I haven't played any game in High/Late yet (only really completed 1 in early, and the Turks above is to High now). But never though of an artilerry heavy army such as yours can be of any use. I must be carefull of those gun in later game.

[Roark]

I think the key is in his descriptor "shooting fish in a barrell".

I'm guessing that he faced an army predominantly composed of infantry with few archers (or even none), who were viciously bombarded by his artillery as they trudged through some kind of pass or ravine. Those who didn't rout were further encouraged to do so by his Steppe Heavies (who possess long range in XL), and the chiv sargeants barely had to work at all.

Nice one.

[Agent Miles]

I think that the AI force was a good mix of Livonian rebels. It wasn't XL though, vanilla MTW/VI on expert. The terrain was flat so the artillery was very effective. Just take the gunners off skirmish so that they don't run away. I think that the numbers were about equal. This is my usual defender army. It never fails. By the time the rebels got to my line they were on low morale. The SHC took the fight out of them and then chased them down. I've also been successful using eight serpentine or culverin in the attack. Artillery are way better than arbs. I'm just a humble 14th century Napoleon.

[ULC]

The best I have ever been able to achieve was when I played as the Byzantines(XL). I was fighting a bridge battle against the Hungarians, in I think Bulgaria. I had 4 Psiloi, 4 BI, 4 Bombards, and a God-Prince (His father was occupied teaching the Turkish on who Allah really was... ). The huns though invaded with well over 2000 men, mostly spearmen of decent quality, along with a French crusade (I don't remeber the number of men). The battle lasted forever, and I nearly lost (In fact, I should have lost, but the French simply left the Hungarians after the death of a single unit of Templar, but the Huns promptly retreated after the betrayal). I had only around 400 men left, but the Hungarians and French suffered massive casualties: 1300 Huns and 70 Frenchmen died.

[Haccapelite]

I got curious when reading this thread, and so i opened my logfiles to see if i had anything like that happen to me. And i did find one battle, which i played back in june that propably is worth mentioning: I was playing as the Swedish, and i attacked Scotland which was held by the Almohads. They retreated to their fort, but next year brought a large army with over 4200 men to lift the siege. My army was pretty teched up, second level weapons and third level armor with nearly all units, but i only had a two star general. I deployed my army consisting of halberdies, some CMAA, huscarles and arbalesters on a steep slope. My arbs poured arrows down to the enemy ranks and when their units finally managed to get up the slope, my halberdies and other infatry chewed them to pieces. they brought in about 3-4 wawes of units, and i managed to rout them all, and when the time ran out they hadn't still stopped bringing more units to the slaughter. (a pity i had the time limit on, numbers would be much higher if it was off) In the end i killed 2271 men and lost 212. (one unit of halberdies killed 315 men and lost 22 )