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    Quote Originally Posted by Riadach
    Well i do apologise for my tone, but i did feel rather outraged that a mod dedicated to historical accuracy had been so duped. I'm sure you would feel if you saw an inaccurate representation of a culture you were interested in. Perhaps Ran had done what he felt was right by refusing to let early goidilic history be ignored through ignorance, but at the same time there were so many sources that would have been easy to quote that he could have resourced.
    Seriously, if you don't want this to heat up again, stop stating it as a fact that the team member was wrong, or worse, intentionally lying. You seem a little too passionate about this to be trusted without hesitation.

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    Are you not passionate about things you have devoted your life to? You may ignore the points I have made that indicated the team member is wrong, but a little further research on your part will indicate that what I have stated is indeed correct.

    Look under the orthography section of Old Irish in wikipedia for a start. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Irish
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    At this point in my life, I am pretty passionate about breathing and... no, that's it. Anyway, as some have told a few times already, the person in question is absent, thus not able to say anything in his defence. The accusation of intentionally lying is what bugs me.

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    Well, I do not wish to accuse anyone of such either. I am merely presenting the facts as they appear to me. Would you have preferred if I had kept quiet on the subject altogether? Would that have been in the best interest of your aims and mission statement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riadach
    Well, I do not wish to accuse anyone of such either. I am merely presenting the facts as they appear to me. Would you have preferred if I had kept quiet on the subject altogether? Would that have been in the best interest of your aims and mission statement?
    No, but there are certainly better ways of presenting yourself. Perhaps instead of being so sure of yourself, you could be a little more humble and open to differing opinion. It wouldn't come across as an insult against one of our members, then.

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    No, but there are certainly better ways of presenting yourself. Perhaps instead of being so sure of yourself, you could be a little more humble and open to differing opinion. It wouldn't come across as an insult against one of our members, then.

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    I would be normally, if it was a mere difference of opinion. But some of the errors were so blatantly obvious, the grammatical and spelling ones for instance, that I had no choice but to be sure in myself in this instance. It would be akin to someone telling an egyptologist that cairo was the faronic capital of egypt. Would they offer the turh as a difference of opinion in that instance if it was a known indisputable fact? I hope you can understand that point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riadach
    I would be normally, if it was a mere difference of opinion. But some of the errors were so blatantly obvious, the grammatical and spelling ones for instance, that I had no choice but to be sure in myself in this instance. It would be akin to someone telling an egyptologist that cairo was the faronic capital of egypt. Would they offer the turh as a difference of opinion in that instance if it was a known indisputable fact? I hope you can understand that point of view.
    Perhaps. I can see your point of view. Of course, I couldn't really speak of the problems with the language there, as I have no knowledge (though I do envy those who do). But still, perhaps less accusative. If there is one thing I have learnt from my Philosophy Degree, is that generally we misunderstand one another, and giving your opponent the benefit of the doubt in friendly situations is advisable. Humans tend to jump to conclusions, which is very good as a survival ability in social situations, but often it overplays in circumstances that offer chances for misunderstanding. In academia, misunderstandings are one's bread and butter, and in my opinion it pays to be kinda than would otherwise be the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riadach
    Well, I do not wish to accuse anyone of such either. I am merely presenting the facts as they appear to me. Would you have preferred if I had kept quiet on the subject altogether? Would that have been in the best interest of your aims and mission statement?


    While I might be delusional about having a passing interest in history, I would never presume to lecture anyone here on content since my area of expertise lies in I/S not the deeper roots of my hobbies.

    That having been said, since the person who's material is in question here cannot be here to defend himself and attacking what's available will be fruitless, perhaps using your expertise to correct / suggest corrections for what you see is wrong would be a better venue? Unless I misunderstood - they asked for help / assistance regarding the units and would be interested in your input regarding such. Would that not, perhaps, be a better focus?

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