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    Default Re: Even though this question is out of the time frame....

    Well considering that it was the "barbarian" celts and peoples of the Iberian penisular that were the greatest metalsmiths in the west, I think that comment is a bit unfair.

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    Default Re: Even though this question is out of the time frame....

    If you look at this,


    depicting the Seleukid arms that were the trophy that Pergammon got out of the battle of Magnesia at 190 BCE.

    Now the "lamellar tubes" worn in the hand and feet of the cataphracts do bear a big resemblance to the Lorica segmentata. I don't claim to know the exact chronology or hows' and whys' of lorica segmentata coming into production, but I must point out the similarities.

    Another one, found in the armory of presumably, "Alexandria Oxiane" or Ai Khanoum (destroyed at 145 BCE) as it is presently known is the following...

    pair of shoulder-pieces, found positioned one on the other, each of them being composed of three parts: a completion of lanceolate scales protecting the shoulder-blade, four rectangular lamellae covering transversally the shoulder top and an oblong plate provided with a buckle permitting the attachment to the corselet
    If I had to guess, knowing that the Sakae had become masters in heavy cavalry and horse barding and using lamellae on those as well, the Eastern Hellenes, Seleukides and Baktrians were heavily influenced by those.

    I don't know the specifics here but there should be some connection between those and


    and please excuse me for saying this again, but...

    LORICA SEGMENTATA IS OUT OF OUR TIMELINE!
    Last edited by keravnos; 08-08-2007 at 18:35.


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