I don't think you've read my post properly:

Quote Originally Posted by SigniferOne
Celtic societies, were not Western. Just like Mycenean Greeks were not Western. [..] At best, you could say that some Celtic properties were proto-Western, whether that be from constant interchange with Romans/Greeks, or from some internal driving force for change, it doesn't matter. Germanic societies were plainly non Western. In fact, Germanic societies were anti-Western, which is shown in what happens to Western qualities when Germanics take over -- those qualities have no value, are quickly destroyed or forgotten.