Kingdoms Battle Map Balance - Latest Blog entry

[gardibolt]

So will LTC 3.1 work with the 1.3 version of M2TW, or will there be an updated version?

[sapi]

It should, considering that 1.3 won't be touching anything but the MP system, which (iirc - don't quote me) should be separate

[Slaists]

um. does everything said about the expansion (mostly that rebalancing will not affect the main campaign) so far mean that oil from gates will appear only in the mini-campaigns, not in the main game?

[Gaius Terentius Varro]

So we're basically paying 30 bucks for a mod which will supposedly fix the game AGAIN?
I am still waiting for the patch (after all the expansions) that will fix my RTW...

Quoting myself from page one here. So let me guess I am paying 30 bucks for an expansion which will NOT fix the game i bought a year ago and HOPEFULLY will not be bugged and needing another patch AGAIN?
Gotta love the business model here. Well I guess I have to let my wallet send the message nad not whine here.

[sapi]

um. does everything said about the expansion (mostly that rebalancing will not affect the main campaign) so far mean that oil from gates will appear only in the mini-campaigns, not in the main game?

As far as I know, yes (but it is apparently moddable)

[Jambo]

Not really. Whilst archers are more accurate they are weaker in melee now, so close the distance with them and they are done for. Cavalry units might be smaller but they are still powerful, and factions like Jerusalem in the Crusades are reliant on their heavy cav thanks to the extra mobility and punch they bring. And yes i suppose cavalry has been nerfed in it's frontal charge steamroller mode, but they are still hugely useful in battle thanks tot heir powerful rear andf flanking charges and mobility. Poland will not be weak, it's grerat cavalry like Polish Knights and Polish Guards will still play a key part in it's armies.

Believe me if you'd played it you would know that cavalry are far from useless.

More important than anything else, will the AI know how to use Cav, i.e. flanking into the sides of units rather than just being used to frontally charge units long before the infantry have engaged??

Just read through the rest of the info. Sad that the Grand Campaign is now officially on the rubbish heap. Because of this I think I'll wait and see if Kingdoms is worth it from forum reviews, and I don't mean by content and new features, but rather by AI improvements (or not as the case may be...).

[Ulstan]

All right so, if I understand it right, Kingdoms patches MTW2 to 1.3, but does *not* rebalance the units.

Is there any mod out there that rebalances the units in the normal MTW2 campaign but doesn't do anything else?

The changes sound really awesome and I'd like to see them used in my regular campaigns, not just the crusades, new world, teutonic, and english campaigns.

[Phoenix]

The Retrofit Mod rebalances the units and adds the features introduced in Kingdoms to the Grand Campaign.

[Shahed]

Thanks for the heads up Phoenix !

[Ulstan]

Thanks Phoenix. That is perfect.

[neoiq5719]

now what i dont understand is that after all re-balancing of cavalry whatever that means, they r still SLOW, NOT FAST RESPONDING TO COMMANDS especially disengaging (what leads most of the time to a total loss of horses) and many times they scatter around what really slows them down just to mention some "good qualities" about them. So why would i care about that BALANCING when the use of cavalry is still pitiful?

[pike master]

i didnt realize this may be a good place to voice my concern over the random weather for the grassy plains map. im hoping something will be done to give select weather for this map so that it can be used for individual testing and multiplayer.

this map should be changed for all kingdoms and the mtw2 grand campaign.