Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
Can't think of any others who have been great during the last 20 years... Chirac, perhaps? And Putin in the negative sense? Maybe Schroeder deserves a place, Hussar?
well, I liked Schröder when he was new, but then that counts for Putin and Bush as well... Since he didn't really fix any problems, made some weird attempts to keep power and secured himself a job in the russian oil industry using his power here, I'm not that fond of him anymore. I was also hoping he would talk sense into Putin since they were good friends, but now it seems like Putin was the one with more influence on the other.

I like Putin when he talks etc, he makes a nice impression, but his imperialistic, oppressive politics tell another story, always makes me wonder whether he doesn't have a good side somewhere inside though as long as it's only inside it won't make a difference.

Well, bush seemed fine at the beginning as well but turned out he is a bit of a lunatic claiming God told him to start wars and stuff. Well yeah, I'm a christian but that's why I don't believe that God told him to go and start a pointless mess. The bible says "you will recognize my people by their deeds", not their words, so he can claim what he wants.
Rather similar to the pope, whom to elect they need several elections as if God couldn't decide who should be his man on earth.

Ok, I'm drifting away, I think I could agree about Kennedy, but it just shows that good politicians are always shot down, one way or the other. I came to the conclusion that to make it far in most political parties you have to be a corrupt liar like all the other party members or otherwise you won't get to the top with their votes. It's a real pity, apparently people elect you for showing up at parties and having a big mouth. today people have a better education but they also have to deal with a whole lot more information from all sides, which doesn't really make things easier.

Looks like I'm ranting around randomly today, don't want to take this off-topic, I just don't expect a lot from politics anymore, they never reverse old things they always moaned about, they just introduce new laws and make everything even more complicated to the point where noone knows how to fix it despite claiming so. Also makes it hard to become a great leader if you're stuck in bureaucracy up to your throat.

Well, at least we have peace and wealth in Europe which is worth quite a lot so I don't complain usually, people in africa have it a lot worse even though their "politics" are less bureaucratic.

Now I need a punchline or something to finish but I can't think of one.