Any interst in an EB succession game?

[Spoofa]

I would like Macedonia but I see thats its basically already decided that its KH but ill still play, I think I would like to take Attikos first son



City mod is a must, as is a money script and the mercenary fix.

[Bobolicious]

I dont really care who I am, but I dont want to be one of the first ones, because ive never done this before, and im not familiar with most of the mods you guys are talking about. I just play the basic 81a. I dont know what the city or money mod is.

[Bootsiuv]

I would like Macedonia but I see thats its basically already decided that its KH but ill still play, I think I would like to take Attikos first son



City mod is a must, as is a money script and the mercenary fix.

City Mod can be found at https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=79775

The AI Balancing Mini-Mod can be found at https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=79775

Personally, I recommend the roleplaying version. It will allow us to take things a little slower, and it will allow the less experienced players to still be able to enjoy their reign.

I was also thinking about using Darth Dark Formations for Eb which can be found here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=86904, although the recommended settings are huge, and I would prefer large so that most players computers will be able to cope without everyone having to have a $200 video card.

BTW, Remember to back up any files you overwrite.

Now, I have to go open EB and take a look at the opening characters. I'm fairly certain that there is 4 to begin with, so the first 4 who signed up will be given characters first. I'll try to make people happy in regards to character selection, but understand that for the sake of time, I would like to keep it simple.

I'll be starting a new thread for the actual game, but we can discuss house rules in here. I'm thinking something like this....

2 year terms i.e. 8 turns

Major invasion armies must be led by a general (reinforcements and local patrols[that don't go into foreign territory] may be led by captians).
If the leading general dies, that army MUST return to Koinon soil

Cities must be governed. If the city isn't governed, nothing can be built or recruited from that city i.e. check the boxes so it isn't automanaged, but don't build anything.

Any thought, additions, complaints are welcome.

[Thaatu]

The AI Balancing Mini-Mod can be found at https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=79775

You probably meant to put up this link: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=87649.
I won't be participating in the succession game, but I did take the liberty of installing all the minimods you plan to use, now that you've recommended them. Good luck to all of you!

[Basileus Seleukeia]

I think the city mod and ai-balance mod will do just fine. Makes the whole thing less complex in terms of changes. As a constitution I have thought of this:
Hegemon: Will be voted for an 2 year term, seems like a good time-span to me.
What can he do: He can appoint generals for major military actions, if the council agrees. Can make suggestions to the familys what to build in their regions, but it is fully up to them whether they do it or not. Whether the hegemon is very friendly to them after that is fully up to him too

For the famailys I have thought of this: When there are plans for an invasion, a general is chosen by the council. He leads the army, fights the battles, hires mercenarys, etc. That leads us to one problem: how to prevent that one family drains all the money from the treasury? We should take care of that. So, when the general has conquered the city, he will place a type 4 government there. When the war is ended (or perhaps after some time) the council votes which family should control the regions. Things to be thought of are, how many troops of which city fought in the battles, from which city the general came from, which family is very close, has family members to actually govern that region, etc.
And if we are attacked, all familys shozuld be forced by the constitution to send some of their troops, if they are not under attack themselves, that is.

Just some ideas, feel free to comment and change to the better

[Nikolaus]

I like the idea of voting for hegemon, but maybe we can play with a style of democracy that Athens had, ie generals are voted for for 2 years, but that might be too short of a time period. I agree with Basileus Seleukeia's suggestion of how we should handle the hegemon, but what about the faction heir?

As far as mini mods go, i don't care as long as it is clear what we will be using.

[Basileus Seleukeia]

The in-game faction leader and heir traits are ignored. They have no effect whatsoever on our roleplaying, afaik.

[Bootsiuv]

The in-game faction leader and heir traits are ignored. They have no effect whatsoever on our roleplaying, afaik.

That is correct.

As far as your other ideas, I like them, although it may be hard to keep track of where each unit comes from. We don't want to make it too complicated. As long as the hegemon (the player currently leading, not the faction leader ingame) writes down what has been built and wherhis e, it would probably be doable.

There is 4 characters. I was thinking about things though. Actually, you don't have to have a character to participate in a reign, but you'll be sending most of your battles away.

I know some of the problems with succession games can be that a few players end up playing all of the battles. This is hard to avoid, but we can try our best to spread them around (I would even be willing to let a few people who haven't led any battles play out a few of mine). I just want everyone to have a certian level of involvement.

I'll be opening a thread up this evening.

Concerning faction leaders, are we just going to go in the order that people signed up? Voting could leave some people out, although we could make a rule that if you've already reigned, you aren't eligible to run for the election until everyone has had a chance. This would lead to our last faction leader leading by default, but then we could start voting again. Personally, I think the first option is the simplest, and therefore, may be the best. We want this to be fun remember.

[KuKulzA]

I have the AI balancing mod. I do not have the city-mod. Are we sure we want to use the city-mod? what advantages would it confer to this succession game?

so we are settled on Koinon Hellenon eh? The basic guideline rules seem good, a few questions though

can you put a family member in a city, que up a building and then leave? or must your man be hangin' around till the building is complete?
just a question in response to the rule of having the general IN a city before you can build in it....

also, when you are playing can you use other's characters or ONLY your own? and if only your own will people remember to put their folks back in their homeland cities?


I'm not very familiar with Greeks, so I would prefer to not be first up, and it'd be great if you guys have frequent updates and pictures on the main succession-game thread

thanks all