EB Preview : Hayasdan Reforms

**Sarkiss** · 08-16-2007, 12:27

every time i go to BM it hurts my feelings to see Urartian, Armenian antiques in there while their proper place is Yerevan, and i can imagine how unhappy Greeks must be seeing some much of classical Greek heritage ended up abroad...

**Basileus Seleukeia** · 08-16-2007, 15:23

Oops, unfortunately double-posted. Delete this one please.

**Basileus Seleukeia** · 08-16-2007, 15:23

Yeah, the britain curators are some selfish guys. I thought that if someone became a curator, he would know that things should be displayed in their country. Americans have not been better either..... they have a lot of egyptian mummys in some museums build beneath a high-way....

**The Persian Cataphract** · 08-16-2007, 15:36

For us Iranians it is a necessary hurt to see our national treasures stored and locked up in foreign nations; I'd wish nothing more than have these invaluable treasures returned to the same land, to the same bosom that reared civilization. Many of these artifacts have even been stolen.

But at the same time, the worst enemy of these treasures, those who seek to destroy, are deeply established in the Iranian government and ruling ideology. Ironically, foreigners have appreciated Iranian treasures far better that Iranians themselves.

**Morte66** · 08-16-2007, 15:56

It would be a shame if every important work of art or historical relic lived permanently in its home nation. How would people get to see work from other cultures, unless they were in a position to travel the world?

But it has to be said, the British historical exhibits in Greece aren't as good as the Greek historical exhibits in Britain. Maybe we should lend you Stonehenge and St Pauls Cathedral for a hundred years to even the score...

[Speaking of loans, there's the real solution. Have the important stuff spend 50% of its time at home and 50% on tour.]

**keravnos** · 08-16-2007, 23:45

[Speaking of loans, there's the real solution. Have the important stuff spend 50% of its time at home and 50% on tour.]

Now, this I can agree with. Civilization monuments should indeed tour the world and everyone should be able to see and visit them.

Yet, in some countries, a whole country is identified with a person, a great leader if you will

Hayasdans or their romani name Armenians consider Tigranes the great as their greatest hero. He was that and more.

We Greeks consider Alexandros our great hero.

Of all things we could see touring around the world, Alexandros tomb and remains (if they will ever be found and ported over to Greece), would never leave Greece. Ever. It would be the same as asking for George Washington's corpse to be publically displayed in another country.

and now back to the topic at hand...

That's why I really enjoy playing with these reforms and I think you will too. Because they show what a man of Tigranes caliber would do if he was in the throne the time the Seleukid empire was falling apart.

**artavazd** · 08-16-2007, 23:51

Hayasdans or their romani name Armenians consider Tigranes the great as their greatest hero. He was that and more.

Kervanos, Both Hayasdan/Hayastan and Armenia are Armenian names. Hai comes from the Hayasa tribe and or Haik the mythelogical patriarch of Armenians ( in recent research Haik has been identified with a real leader of the Hayasa tribe. There for Haykastan Hayastan tan being the suffix of home the home of the Haiks. Armenia comes from the Armens or/and king Aram.

**keravnos** · 08-17-2007, 00:02

My mistake then, thought I read something to that extent.

**artavazd** · 08-17-2007, 01:57

no problem brother!

by the way both of my grandparents on my mothers side are born in Greece. My grandfather is from Athens, and my grandmother is from thesaloniki.

**KARTLOS** · 08-17-2007, 07:47

Originally Posted by Basileus Seleukeia

Yeah, the britain curators are some selfish guys. I thought that if someone became a curator, he would know that things should be displayed in their country. Americans have not been better either..... they have a lot of egyptian mummys in some museums build beneath a high-way....

not a very intelligent post.

**Basileus Seleukeia** · 08-17-2007, 12:10

Originally Posted by KARTLOS

not a very intelligent post.

If that is your opinion, than please keep it. Besides, that post of yours is not intelligent either, as it trys to initiate a flame-war, and I will stay out of that behaviour.