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    Default Re: EB Preview : Hayasdan Reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Diadoch
    Does the reform lead you to attack the heart of Seleucid empire?
    I don't understand? Do you mean "make"? No, you don't have to fulfill any part of this reform, so it doesn't make you attack anyone. However to start the Orontid Empire Reform you need to take the Seleukid cities in Mesopotamia and Iran. There is a map.

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    Default Re: EB Preview : Hayasdan Reforms

    Thanks, that is what I was talking about, if I want reforms I have to attack.
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    Default Re: EB Preview : Hayasdan Reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Diadoch
    Thanks, that is what I was talking about, if I want reforms I have to attack.
    Well, out of a strictly technical viewpoint, no you don't "have to attack", though it is advised since you'll rarely if ever see a mass revolt of the concerned provinces. If someone else conquers those provinces, well, you'll have to duke it out with them if you want the reforms... Or...

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    Also, the game might just start acting weird if you try the "diplomacy" a la TPC... In other words, your PC might not enjoy it as much as you do.
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    This looks way too complicated for me, could someone please explain how to do these reforms in brief?

    I guess I can pull out the Pan-Caucasian Reforms but the Persian reforms seem too difficult
    Last edited by Servilius Novus; 05-06-2012 at 14:02.

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    Default Re: EB Preview : Hayasdan Reforms

    Holy necro!

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa Barbarorum FAQ, "Persian Reform"
    -Build Type3 governments in these cities (Arbela, Seleukeia, Babylon, Ekbatana, Charax, Susa, and Persepolis)
    -Build (persiapart) in these cities (Susa and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Susa, and Persepolis)

    Western Expansion 2:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Ekbatana, Seleukeia, Babylon, and Charax)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Susa and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Ekbatana, Seleukeia, Babylon, and Charax)

    Western Expansion 3:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Palmyra, Edessa, and Arbela)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Ekbatana, Seleukeia, Babylon, Charax, Susa, and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Palmyra, Edessa, and Arbela)

    Western Expansion 4:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Tarsos, Antiocheia, and Damaskos)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Palmyra, Edessa, Arbela, Ekbatana, Seleukeia, Babylon, Charax, Susa, and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Tarsos, Antiocheia, and Damaskos)

    Eastern Expansion 2a:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Zadrakata, Apameia, and Gabai)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Susa and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Zadrakata, Apameia, and Gabai)

    Eastern Expansion 2b:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Karmana and Gabai)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Susa and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Karmana and Gabai)

    Eastern Expansion 3a:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Asaak, Hekatompylos, and Alexandreia-Ariane)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Zadrakata, Apameia, Gabai, Karmana, Susa, and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Asaak, Hekatompylos, and Alexndreia-Ariane)

    Eastern Expansion 3b:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Pura, Alexandropolis, Prophthasia, and Alexandreia-Ariane)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Zadrakata, Apameia, Gabai, Karmana, Susa, and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resources will appear in Pura, Alexandropolis, Prophthasia, and Alexandreia-Ariane)

    Eastern Expasion 4:
    -Build Type3 governments and (persiapart) in these cities (Baktra, Antiocheia-Margiane, and Kophen)
    -Build (persiafull) in these cities (Pura, Alexandropolis, Prophthasia, Alexandreia-Ariane, Zadrakata, Apameia, Gabai, Karmana, Susa, and Persepolis)
    = (Subjugation resrouces will appear in Baktra, Antiocheia-Margiane, and Kophen)
    As you can see, you need to build specific gov buildings, which will unlock "event" buildings, they in turn will allow you to build type2 gov, ie: satrapies...
    Last edited by Arjos; 05-07-2012 at 06:50.

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    Default Re: EB Preview : Hayasdan Reforms

    Holy necro indeed!

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