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    Quote Originally Posted by keravnos
    Actually I am one of those who believe he meant "Krateros" infantry general, and quite possibly the best of the short circle of Alexandros' friends whose name also happened to mean "the strongest"... or as Alexandros is thought to have said..."ΤΩ ΚΡΑΤΕΡΩ". Poor Krateros... What could a unified empire do with a man like Krateros in its lead.

    The other Diadochoi, well, they never would accept such a thing, nobody would in their place.
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    a plausible theory, yes. What happened to him actually after that... got murdered didnt he. shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger
    a plausible theory, yes. What happened to him actually after that... got murdered didnt he. shame.
    No, he attacked Sparta but got beaten back, then assaulted Argos, which was defended by Antigonus and his son, whose name I forgot. Phyrus participated in the actual fighing and at one point cornered a young Argive soldier. The soldier's mother (who, like the other women, had taken refuge on the rooftops) saw her son being attacked, grabbed a rooftile, and hurled it at Phyrus. Phyrus was momentarily stunned, allowing the young soldier to finish him of. Phyrus' body was decapitated by a Celtic or Thracian mercenary and brought to Antigonus' son, who brought in in thriump to his father. Antigonus berated his son for this barbarism, but I don't know what he did with the grisly trophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens
    No, he attacked Sparta but got beaten back, then assaulted Argos, which was defended by Antigonus and his son, whose name I forgot. Phyrus participated in the actual fighing and at one point cornered a young Argive soldier. The soldier's mother (who, like the other women, had taken refuge on the rooftops) saw her son being attacked, grabbed a rooftile, and hurled it at Phyrus. Phyrus was momentarily stunned, allowing the young soldier to finish him of. Phyrus' body was decapitated by a Celtic or Thracian mercenary and brought to Antigonus' son, who brought in in thriump to his father. Antigonus berated his son for this barbarism, but I don't know what he did with the grisly trophy.

    The Stranger meant Krateros, not Pyrrhos, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by O'ETAIPOS
    The Stranger meant Krateros, not Pyrrhos, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens
    Phyrus' body was decapitated by a Celtic or Thracian mercenary and brought to Antigonus' son, who brought in in thriump to his father. Antigonus berated his son for this barbarism, but I don't know what he did with the grisly trophy.
    Treated the him as a true king and gave him proper funerary rites.

    Pyrrhos, great general, but far from the brilliant statesman that Alexandros was. Still, by far one of the most intriguing characters of the era.

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    Discussing who would be the "rightful" heir of Alexander is rather pointless since Alexander himself wasn't even the "rightful" heir of the Macedonian kingdom. Nor was his father, Philip II of Macedon, if observing the real law of succession that is. Philip II originally came to power as the guardian of what's-his-name, who was a minor. But he was the guy with the big stick and so he sort of slipped into kingship when no one was looking.

    Ancient politics is really rather haphazad, half of the time it just seems like bad slapstick.

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    I think i'm authorized to say Welcome to the Forums Axel JD!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axel JD
    But he was the guy with the big stick
    Pretty much the main qualification for kingship in any era.

    Good first post.

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    Seems like any Greek with an army claimed to be Alexander's heir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens
    No, he attacked Sparta but got beaten back, then assaulted Argos, which was defended by Antigonus and his son, whose name I forgot. Phyrus participated in the actual fighing and at one point cornered a young Argive soldier. The soldier's mother (who, like the other women, had taken refuge on the rooftops) saw her son being attacked, grabbed a rooftile, and hurled it at Phyrus. Phyrus was momentarily stunned, allowing the young soldier to finish him of. Phyrus' body was decapitated by a Celtic or Thracian mercenary and brought to Antigonus' son, who brought in in thriump to his father. Antigonus berated his son for this barbarism, but I don't know what he did with the grisly trophy.
    I was talking about Krateros, but i see you know that now :P
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    I discovered that I wrote a stupidity as soon as I opened one book this morning. I am sorry, I will edit it. I just did not remembered all facts so I joined Filipos Arhidaios and Perdikas into one person and so on...



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    Thank you for the warm welcome!
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    I knew there was a Perdiccas. I thought I was going crazy for a minute. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger
    a plausible theory, yes. What happened to him actually after that... got murdered didnt he. shame.
    He was killed in a battle against a fellow named Eumenes around 320 BCE somewhere in northwest Asia Minor. Reportedly somewhat of a horse riding accident.
    Last edited by Thaatu; 08-13-2007 at 18:48.

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