Live Update of Thread When Posting (and general modernization)

[drone]

RSS?

Really Simple Syndication

For me, really long posts are exactly what the Preview Post button is for. I usually make more grammar, syntax or spelling errors in long posts, the preview lets me read it all in post format to see how it comes across. It also gives me a second chance to rethink the post altogether (is it necessary, is it spam, is it pushing the boundaries of the forum rules, etc.). Also, since writing long posts takes longer, the preview allows you to see posts that come in while the "novel" was being written.

Having a live forum mode would require a shift from browser-side "requested data" to server-side "pushed data". I'm pretty sure this is not a trivial task, from either a programming or bandwidth standpoint.

[sapi]

Well, I wouldn't mind seeing things go completely web2.0 with AJAX; but that's something that has to be built into the vB core, and isn't really something that can be edited at will by the admins here.

A huge to flash and sound by me, too

[Bijo]

Well, I wouldn't mind seeing things go completely web2.0 with AJAX; but that's something that has to be built into the vB core, and isn't really something that can be edited at will by the admins here.

Ah! Web 2.0 and Ajax: I am hardly familiar with them but I generally see they more or less resemble what I meant by my idea (if I have read and understood the information on it correctly)

A huge to flash and sound by me, too

What if there would be an option to activate/deactivate sound notifications and Flash? Such options would serve both sides who like/dislike them.

[Togakure]

I vote no Flash, no sound. Cost-Benefit must be considered in evolving software--increased functionality and end-user benefit versus cost in time to develop (to my knowledge, no one's getting paid to develop this forum ...) and degree of difficulty. Risk must also be considered--and Flash is a security risk. Sound is invasive, and if it's ever added as a feature, it should be completely optional and not the default.

This forum works very nicely in my opinion. Bells and whistles as described--represented as "modernization"--remind me of trends in today's popular games and movies--much superficial glitz, no significant value added--some even subtracted from my point of view. My so-called "bell curve phenomenon" is poignantly demonstrated, as the general population sadly seems to prefer such things.

[Bijo]

For the sake of clarity to me and others who know little of it here is what Ajax is. Fascinating.

And here is Web 2.0. Fascinating.


[QUOTE=Masamune]
[...]Bells and whistles as described--represented as "modernization"--remind me of trends in today's popular games and movies--much superficial glitz, no significant value added--[...]
You would find that my reasoning in the opening posts and the information recently provided in this post would contradict this statement ;)

[Husar]

Yes, we definitely need more social networking and other Web 2.0 features here. If I look at a user's profile I want to see the cheapest flights to his/her town or the shortest way by car or anything. Then people will also be more polite in the Backroom.

Also we need some place where ogahs can find a partner for their life, the .org geek marriage center or something, I certainly wouldn't use it, but it's modern.
And maybe a marketplace where we can sell old computer parts to the highest bidder, or maybe CD keys. And i want to see the weather forecast on every page of the forum, including a newsreader voice that will read my RSS feeds to me(good thing I don't have any), alternatively the voice could just read the folder structure of the primary partition or something.

Ok, that's all I can think of now, tomorrow, when Tosa has finished these, I can add more.

[Fragony]

My browser automatically refreshes when something is posted, wish I could shut it off it's annoying and it slows down my internet to a crawl. I can use two windows at most or I run out of memory

[Togakure]

[QUOTE=Bijo]For the sake of clarity to me and others who know little of it here is what Ajax is. Fascinating.

And here is Web 2.0. Fascinating.

[...]Bells and whistles as described--represented as "modernization"--remind me of trends in today's popular games and movies--much superficial glitz, no significant value added--[...]
You would find that my reasoning in the opening posts and the information recently provided in this post would contradict this statement ;)

I did read your post, understood what you were driving at despite the difficulty I have translating your choice and arrangement of words, and my opinion is indeed contrary to yours. There is no "contradiction" in my statement as I see it. From my point of view, your choice of diction demonstrates the very tendency towards pomp and attempted flashiness that your suggestions for the forums advocate. ;) Then again, perhaps it is simply because you do not live in a region where proper English is actually spoken regularly, and have been "over-schooled" in written English and vocabulary. This is not meant to be an insult, merely an observation/feedback--from someone who takes his English and written communication fairly seriously.

[Husar]

What the--

Do you happen to have anything useful to add without sarcasm?

Maybe.
Sorry for so much sarcasm, sometimes it's hard to stop.

First off, someone has to program all this and second, I wonder why we need all that stuff? IMO the Org looks good enough, what makes this forum great are not it's looks, it's the people. And a lot of flash etc will just cause more problems with browsers, slow computers and especially slow internet connections. Why fix something that ain't broken?

Tosa already adds some nice things from time to time and he seems to do a good job with that, for me that is sufficient.

[Bijo]

Ya know, I was searching for my fly swatter. You probably know those ones with the electricity. I could not find it: regrettable, truly regrettable. I will simply have to use the old-fashioned one then. The electrical ones make taking out more flies simultaneously or fast after each other somewhat easier, though I guess the old ones are useful as well. It just takes more skill, but it's possible.

Oh, sorry. It seems I went offtopic.
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Maybe.
I wonder why we need all that stuff? IMO the Org looks good enough,

To make it more efficient for users. If there was the option that one could choose to keep the standard as it is now I would hardly see a problem. You could keep browsing the Org as it is at present.

what makes this forum great [...] it's the people.

There have been cases where I would beg to differ but indeed it is the people. But this however regards the community, not the technical side of the forum, and it is the technical side that is the question here.

And a lot of flash etc will just cause more problems with browsers, slow computers and especially slow internet connections. Why fix something that ain't broken?

If the option to keep the old/standard Org view is there I again see no problem.

And can you specify what kinds of problems regarding 'problems with browsers' ?

And what about 'slow internet connections'? I'm not getting it, but from what I understand it would actually be more efficient not having to reload web pages all the time. Is this incorrect?

Tosa already adds some nice things from time to time and he seems to do a good job with that, for me that is sufficient.

Indeed: it is good work and he is to be praised for it. It is also, indeed, sufficient (whether to you or generally).

But can you not see it? If the Org community seems splendid and the board is -- by your words -- sufficient (or let us say good or splendid in general), then what if the board is "modernized" as in dynamic, interactive, more intuitive, etc., etc.?

The following dramatization explains it:
Best Online Community + "Modernized" Forum ---> EVEN GREATER ONLINE COMMUNITY/FORUM!!!!!!11one!