Roman Armor

[Anastasios Helios]

I'm not much into the Romans but i'm curious to when did Roman armor change to the imperial style with plate armor? Also, why is there none in EB?

[Dyabedes of Aphrodisias]

The lorica segmentata you speak of appeared around 6 AD I believe, and only began being widespread around 30(?) years later. This just so happens to be just after EB's time frame, and thus was not included.

[abou]

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

A lorica segmentata thread finally.

[Thaatu]

Quick! Spam before it gets closed!

[geala]

If you like...

Recently I had to notice that the Romans invented segmented armour already in the early 3rd c. BC! I was told that by a friend who knows someone who knows the kitchen boy of a very famous archeologican. He told him that this man has found a contemporary military manual of about 272 BC (in a secret papal library) which shows an armour which looks exactly like Corbridge type A armour! And in the manual the armour is named "lorica segmentata", exactly the name given to it by modern researchers! Isn't it wonderful? The theory why it is not shown in the art for a long time is apodictic: the early artists were not able to catch the beauty of the cuirass so the artistic convention spread not to show it at all. Unfortunately the manual was destroyed by cleaning personal before it could be published or even copied.

Nevertheless I demand the introduction of lorica segmentata into EB as the only Roman armour from the beginning.

[Thaatu]

I demand that all units recruited north of the Alps be given coats. I mean, it's freaking cold in the winter!

[The_Mark]

Anastasios, in case you're wondering the negative responses, a lorica segmentata thread crops up once a week here, and that's been happening for years. It's a bit ad nauseum topic. You can incite a historical debate here by starting a thread concerning almost anything else than lorica segmentata, exhibit A. Segmentata is just not a chord one wishes to strike around here.

[Sassem]

If you like...

Recently I had to notice that the Romans invented segmented armour already in the early 3rd c. BC! I was told that by a friend who knows someone who knows the kitchen boy of a very famous archeologican. He told him that this man has found a contemporary military manual of about 272 BC (in a secret papal library) which shows an armour which looks exactly like Corbridge type A armour! And in the manual the armour is named "lorica segmentata", exactly the name given to it by modern researchers! Isn't it wonderful? The theory why it is not shown in the art for a long time is apodictic: the early artists were not able to catch the beauty of the cuirass so the artistic convention spread not to show it at all. Unfortunately the manual was destroyed by cleaning personal before it could be published or even copied.

Yes sorry told them to throw it away it was printed with a canon laser printer and that didn't look right because they invented such printers around 50 BC

[Intranetusa]

Yes sorry told them to throw it away it was printed with a canon laser printer and that didn't look right because they invented such printers around 50 BC

Moveable type printing or laser/jet ink printing? XD



Anyways, I believe some people couple months ago said the lorica segmenta didn't become popular until the Trajan era...

[The Celt]

Segmentata is just not a chord one wishes to strike around here.

But you guys will let me get away with all my "Celtic Cataphract" rants? Thats messed up!

[gran_guitarra]

I have a time machine so we can just take an example of Lorica Segmentata back to 272 BC and have the Romans use it then, that way we can have both in EB.

While we're at it let's take a couple of books on:
physics, biology, chemistry, history (let em know what's coming and how to avoid it), economics, and just for fun we can take a manual on how to make muskets and cannons and gunpowder. Legionnaires with guns, wtf!!!

[Anastasios Helios]

Ah...I should have thought about that...especially since Rome is one of the most popular factions...I can imagine this question coming up all the time.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

While we're at it let's take a couple of books on:
physics, biology, chemistry, history (let em know what's coming and how to avoid it), economics, and just for fun we can take a manual on how to make muskets and cannons and gunpowder. Legionnaires with guns, wtf!!!

Eh, just explain the steam piston to Heron of Alexandria.

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I WANT LIGHTSABERZ AND TANKZ AND SHIT FOR T3H ROMANZ COZ THE GERMANS WERE LIKE CALLED LIKE HOLY ROMANZ AND THEN THEY INVENTED T3H TANKZ AND STUFF AND THEN THE ROMANZ WERE LIKE T3H PWNZ0R SO THEY HAVE TO GET THA LIGHTSABERZ COZ THEY LIKE BEAT EVERYBODY AND SHIT AND WHERES T3H CAESARZ AND HANNIBALZ COZ THEY LIKE KILLED SHIT AND THEN CEASAR LIKE WON AND THEN TERE WOZ SOME GALDIATORZ AND NINJAZ AND THEY LIKE TOTALLY PWNZ0RED T3H HAIRY GUYS THat COME FROM T3H FOREST AND ALL

[Thaatu]

Ah...I should have thought about that...especially since Rome is one of the most popular factions...I can imagine this question coming up all the time.

Don't take this the wrong way, this ain't a personal attack or anything. Just a chance to spam.

[The_Mark]

But you guys will let me get away with all my "Celtic Cataphract" rants? Thats messed up!

They're funny.

[Morte66]

I have a time machine so we can just take an example of Lorica Segmentata back to 272 BC and have the Romans use it then, that way we can have both in EB.

While we're at it let's take a couple of books on:
physics, biology, chemistry, history (let em know what's coming and how to avoid it), economics, and just for fun we can take a manual on how to make muskets and cannons and gunpowder. Legionnaires with guns, wtf!!!

Change your name to Martin Padway, then go stand near the Pantheon and wait for lightning to strike. Twice.

[1 cool point to whoever gets the reference without googling.]

[Tellos Athenaios]

I demand that all units recruited north of the Alps be given coats. I mean, it's freaking cold in the winter!

Yeah, I'll propose cloaks for all peoples in the desert too! It's damn cold at night there.

[Tellos Athenaios]

I WANT LIGHTSABERZ AND TANKZ AND SHIT FOR T3H ROMANZ COZ THE GERMANS WERE LIKE CALLED LIKE HOLY ROMANZ AND THEN THEY INVENTED T3H TANKZ AND STUFF AND THEN THE ROMANZ WERE LIKE T3H PWNZ0R SO THEY HAVE TO GET THA LIGHTSABERZ COZ THEY LIKE BEAT EVERYBODY AND SHIT AND WHERES T3H CAESARZ AND HANNIBALZ COZ THEY LIKE KILLED SHIT AND THEN CEASAR LIKE WON AND THEN TERE WOZ SOME GALDIATORZ AND NINJAZ AND THEY LIKE TOTALLY PWNZ0RED T3H HAIRY GUYS THat COME FROM T3H FOREST AND ALL

Ninjas, anybody said ninjas?

"Ninjas are awesome, and by awesome I mean totally sweet."

Don't google.

Good luck,

[Foot]

I love Ninjas with all my body (including my pee pee).

Foot

[Tellos Athenaios]

You do?

But of course, you Know about ETW!

[Sassem]

can anyone tell the name of the village where Astrix & Obelix living cause i want to avoid that playing as roman. a area code is also ok my general uses the newest version of the marius marius

thank you

[bovi]

Was that Bretagne? It's way up in the northwestern part of France anyway.

[The_Mark]

Btw, did they ever mention the actual name of the village? As it happens, I know most of the books by heart and stil I can't remember a single reference to its name.

[bovi]

No, I don't think it's mentioned. The roman garrisons surrounding it are named though.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

No, I don't think it's mentioned. The roman garrisons surrounding it are named though.

What are they called in English?

In German it's Babaorum, Aquarium, Laudanum and Kleinbonum.

[bovi]

In Norwegian it's Barbarium, Aquarium, Laudanum and Lillebonum. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English...ons_of_Asterix says they're Compendium, Aquarium, Laudanum and Totorum in English.

[Thaatu]

It's hard to pinpoint the actual site of the village, because there's a magnifying glass that distorts the map. I figure it's somewhere near modern Tourlaville, but that's just a theory based on the placement of the magnifying glass (directly between modern Morlaix and Abbeville). If we could locate the Roman garrisons, we could measure the location of the village itself and set up an excavation. I'm confident that the town of Bretteville (49´39' 28"N, 1´31' 36"W) just might be what we're looking for.


What? I have my sources.

[Tellos Athenaios]

The Roman sites are Petitbonum, Laudanum, Aquarium, and Barbarorum in the Dutch translation. Since we know from various pictures in the books that the village is very, very close to the sea (visible from the shore), and that there are some sheer cliffs located as well...