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So you think Cheney and the Bush boys are hawks? Want mideast peace and a palastinian state?
Welcome to reality, and say hi to a Mr Moshe Feiglin, who said radicals were exclusive to Islam?
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So you think Cheney and the Bush boys are hawks? Want mideast peace and a palastinian state?
Welcome to reality, and say hi to a Mr Moshe Feiglin, who said radicals were exclusive to Islam?
There are few things more annoying than some idiot who has never done anything trying to say definitively how something should be done.
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Good, time to stop giving into TERRORISTS. [...] Everytime Israel gives into [...] TERRORISTS, it only causes more issues. The best solution for TERRORISM to still kill it. Its like cancer, you don't let it linger, you kill it. The same should be for this cancer.
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RIP Tosa
Olmert is the reason for this Likud was left for dead by sharon years ago, and if he didnt make such a mess out of the lebanon these right wingers wouldnt have been news worthy.Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
I'll leave the palestinian issue alone for now, but how many more "wipe them off the map" statements from Iran, and a budding nuke program do you think these two are going to put up with?
I dont think very many, and this might be a blessing for the U.S. as we can finally pull the hell out of the middle east and let them settle it once and for all.
Of course we will keep an arms broker on call, but time to let the israelies regain there mystique of superior armed forces.
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There are few things more annoying than some idiot who has never done anything trying to say definitively how something should be done.
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Come on Odin, you know as well as the rest of us that we (good ol' US) won't leave the Middle East alone while there's still oil to be had. The prospect of that oil reaching a few million degrees and being heavily irradiated doesn't bode well for the average American and our gas-sucking SUVs, so you can bet we're going to stick around and keep sticking our noses in Israel and the rest of the ME's business for a long time coming.
Bleh.
I dont know Whacker I can afford 5-7 dollars a gallon, so fire it up. Perhaps thats exactly what we need is a boot in the butt to get us off oil. My personal preference would be to continue to buy it off of them long term, I just dont want the entagling military/political/aid/financial baggage that goes with it.Originally Posted by Whacker
Let em laugh at the dumb fat americans, I dont care. I will happily buy there oil and let them solve thier internal socioligical and religon issues. I want no more part of this happy crap and netanhayu might just be the guy to releive us of the self imposed burdens.
But your point is fair, i dont think this will happen in 2008, but 2015? Sure, I honestly believe the middle east is on the brink of a major sectarian war (boy we stirred that pot well didnt we) and meantime as shiites are killing sunni's the israeli's radicalize with Likud and actually do something about Iran.
Those are all real possibilities (not certainties). Let them have at it, as long as the oil flows and everyone makes money from it all the better, I just dont want to be on the hook any more for aid, or military prescence.
Time to cut bait.
There are few things more annoying than some idiot who has never done anything trying to say definitively how something should be done.
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Ugh, we're about the same when it comes to socioeconomic status I think, so we could swag that too. But that's just nuts. I'm still surprised people aren't complaining more with gas above $3/gal.Originally Posted by Odin
As I'm sure you know the deal is that unrest and warfare would drive up oil prices, but as you said, you'd be willing to pay more for it. I guess I would also, but to a point.Let em laugh at the dumb fat americans, I dont care. I will happily buy there oil and let them solve thier internal socioligical and religon issues. I want no more part of this happy crap and netanhayu might just be the guy to releive us of the self imposed burdens.
If anything, this just proves that we need to be moving STRONGLY and PURPOSEFULLY towards a new energy/fuel solution that's viable and can be realized in the not-to-distant future.
Bah, my opinion is still largely the same as yours though. I don't think we should be in that mess at all, we have enough of our own problems to sort out.But your point is fair, i dont think this will happen in 2008, but 2015? Sure, I honestly believe the middle east is on the brink of a major sectarian war (boy we stirred that pot well didnt we) and meantime as shiites are killing sunni's the israeli's radicalize with Likud and actually do something about Iran.
Couldn't have put it any better myself. The thing is I don't see us doing that anytime in the near future at all. Who knows, perhaps President Hillary will do something different.Those are all real possibilities (not certainties). Let them have at it, as long as the oil flows and everyone makes money from it all the better, I just dont want to be on the hook any more for aid, or military prescence.
Time to cut bait.
Did I just say that? I need to go bleach my skin until it falls off again.
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