Is it time to end the US trade embargo with Cuba?

**Odin** · 08-16-2007, 16:08

Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave

Nope, the only trade I would allow would be giving all of Michael Moore's food for Castro's cigars and rum. That should be the GDP of most small countries.

The last time I laughed at one of your posts i got a warning. This one feels milder so I'll stick my neck out......

**Slyspy** · 08-16-2007, 22:35

I doubt it will be lifted while Castro lives. Pride and self interest will see to that.

**Marshal Murat** · 08-17-2007, 02:10

I'm with SFTS.

I want to have this ancient policy seen through so that Castro can go down, democratic policies can be enacted and the 1950 cars can be renovated.

With the end of the Castro regime there would definitely be a flood of imports and exports out of Miami and Key West.

I want to say that at least one US embargo had an effect.

**AntiochusIII** · 08-17-2007, 03:00

Originally Posted by Marshal Murat

I'm with SFTS.

I want to have this ancient policy seen through so that Castro can go down, democratic policies can be enacted and the 1950 cars can be renovated.

With the end of the Castro regime there would definitely be a flood of imports and exports out of Miami and Key West.

I want to say that at least one US embargo had an effect.

Shhh, don't tell anyone about this, but...

You know, I want to say that this one US embargo had an effect too, but I just can't. This one doesn't. It simply doesn't. Mr. Castro is on death's door for some natural causes and his defiant Damn-The-Yankees attitude hasn't broken down a bit.

And don't tell anyone about this too, but I think a certain popular South American President loves trading with Cuba for some magical reasons involving some antagonism with Washington. If nothing goes particularly wrong we can comfortably predict that he'll be propping up the Cuban regime for the foreseeable future anyway.

Bull-headed stick-it-out policy is so 2003.

**KafirChobee** · 08-22-2007, 05:53

Originally Posted by AntiochusIII

Bull-headed stick-it-out policy is so 2003.

Gah! You hit it on the nail! LOL!! One might say "It's so 1957".

As a kid, I recall stores selling Castro style hats with beards - they were in ALL the stores. He was a hero here, for about a week (I know it was longer, but a week sounds neat ... eh?). Then suddenly he said something about communism, or socialism, or redistributing the wealth ... something like that anyway - and he became another boogeyman. Now this commy bad guy was 90 miles away - so, naturally we had to kill him. We drove him right into the Soviets hands - not that he wasn't going down that broke yellow brick road on his own.

Fifty years, and numerous embarrassments - Bay of Pigs (Ike's plan, JFK inherited it, but restricted our troops involvement to Special OPS), numerous outlandish assassination attempts (would have taken one suicide bomber), etc. Of course we did get through October 1962 (Missiles of Oct.) with concessions and agreements - basically we escaped MAD by the wits of Kennedy and a few advisors. After that though, it was a we hate Cuba because we hate Castro. Period. Every attempt by a Prez since then has ended up with egg on his face, because Castro still thinks he's a revolutionary - he gives a rats tail about the betterment of Cuba or its people - his concern is with keeping power.

Regardless, had we raised the embargo - we would have crushed him by opening the od Cuba markets to our goods. Face it, the Cubans (atleast those I know) love the opportunity to make money - profit - as much as anyone.

[Note: the Cubans here in Florida (America and else where - other than Cuba) hate Castro because he stole their lands and propertys for the peasants. It is all about property. Nothing more.]

Raise the embargoes and you end Castro's reign - all the Castros.

**Devastatin Dave** · 08-17-2007, 03:38

Originally Posted by Odin

The last time I laughed at one of your posts i got a warning. This one feels milder so I'll stick my neck out......

You got a warning for just laughing at one of my posts?

Sorry Bro...

**Ser Clegane** · 08-17-2007, 10:42

Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave

You got a warning for just laughing at one of my posts?

Just for the record:
Odin never received a warning.
For further discussions about this, please switch to PM or start a thread in the Backroom Watchtower

Thanks

**Ronin** · 08-17-2007, 12:35

if you want the Cuban dictatorship to go down you lift the embargo.....it´s the simplest and most effective way really.

all it does is give Castro the "big bad American wolf" card so that he can use it in his dumb speeches