EB Romani Intro: Second try

[name]

Hello fellow EB players!
Here is my second attempt to publish an intro for the EB Romani's.
The first one was over at TWC and we(me and hooahguy) got pretty bad feedback, especially about the audio.
So now we even have two variation(one recorded by me and then editied, meaning it's not my real voice) and a second one by hooahguy(edited as well).
So I really do hope you like this one better, because it was pretty complicated making it.
And by the way, someone at twc said the city I showed was a Greek one, well, I actually did that in the custom battle map "Rome", the thread over at twc was deleted by a database error, unfortunately.
So well, here we go, here are the links:
Me
hooahguy
Due to some confusion: Both videos are in English

And if the feedback about the audio is too bad, I'm just gonna try to make the main intro movie, which will have no voice :)

So have fun with the videos, and don't be shy to suggest what we could've done better, but be polite :D

And don't forget to tell us which one you liked better and why.

Please respond, we really need feedback ;)

[Hooahguy]

i just had to say this, to everyone, before they post their criticism:

As most of you know, there has been a lot of criticism about the first video we (Name and I) made, on topics ranging from video quality to the voice. I want to address the voice. Name and I are a two-man group, obviously, and we can only do so much in terms of voice. We aren’t like CA, who has many people of different accents at their disposal. We do not have that luxury. We have at our disposal two teens, one with a German accent and another with an American accent (which would be me). We don’t have a fancy recording studio like CA does for its audio. All we have is a very good program, Audacity, and a computer microphone to record voice with. That’s it for our “equipment” to do the audio. To add, our budget is much smaller than CA’s. After being introduced to EB, I, along with Name, decided we should try to give something back to the EB team and this wonderful mod by attempting to do an intro video for the Romani, as a token of gratitude for all their hard work.
thanks again, EB team!

[Tellos Athenaios]

You do realise that the bit about Carthage is entirely artistic speculation, though?

Other than something with the Voice (I thinks the music you choosed doesn't really permit any real voice acting on top of it, try mixing various themes and using a quiet one for the bits with voice acting in it), I cannot complain. If you could, it would be cool to do something with close ups too.

Some people write EB AAR's, others participate in the sceenshot competition; some help confused fans, and others make movies. (And some do all of it.) But they all add to the EB mod, and the community on the Org, or TWC or wherever.

EDIT: You guys do realise you've chosen the quiet time of day on the ORG? It's like owning a shop which opens at 02:00 and closes at 04:00. Not many customers then, are there? (In Europe it's right now, somewhere 01:20-ish; 02:20-ish or 03:20-ish. Americans (from Texas or north / west of Texas) will get back here at about 06:00-ish in GMT+1. (Western Europe time))

[sgsandor]

Looks pretty darn good. I knew i should have learned german
oh you have english version too (i feel dumb now lol) It is pretty cool, i dig it

[name]

You do realise that the bit about Carthage is entirely artistic speculation, though?

Other than something with the Voice (I thinks the music you choosed doesn't really permit any real voice acting on top of it, try mixing various themes and using a quiet one for the bits with voice acting in it), I cannot complain. If you could, it would be cool to do something with close ups too.

Some people write EB AAR's, others participate in the sceenshot competition; some help confused fans, and others make movies. (And some do all of it.) But they all add to the EB mod, and the community on the Org, or TWC or wherever.

EDIT: You guys do realise you've chosen the quiet time of day on the ORG? It's like owning a shop which opens at 02:00 and closes at 04:00. Not many customers then, are there? (In Europe it's right now, somewhere 01:20-ish; 02:20-ish or 03:20-ish. Americans (from Texas or north / west of Texas) will get back here at about 06:00-ish in GMT+1. (Western Europe time))

I am from Austria, and I'm kinda night active, and you forgot to say which one you liked better!

Looks pretty darn good. I knew i should have learned german
oh you have english version too (i feel dumb now lol) It is pretty cool, i dig it

Both are English, watch both and tell us which one was better.

[Sassem]

With both of the voices it sounds you're putting the accent (klemtoon in dutch) in some lines wrong

i'm not meaning the german, american, russia, chinese accent or what ever it's very hard to explain that in words maybe it's better to call it the tone of some words

try to talk a little bit from you're throat like you have a deeper voices and slower with a tone that you really mean

like you said "the enemy's of rome"

should be "the enemy's of rome"

(how bigger the letters how harder you say it)

i hope this is helpful it's so hard to explain and i'm so bad in technical english

anyway i'm impressed by the video i did video edithing myself before there were digital camara's so i know that you guys have invested a lot time in it

maybe we will get a competition of video intro's in the future a few things more and EB can make game box and put in the computer stores

[Tellos Athenaios]

With both of the voices it sounds you're putting the accent (klemtoon in dutch) in some lines wrong

i'm not meaning the german, american, russia, chinese accent or what ever it's very hard to explain that in words maybe it's better to call it the tone of some words

try to talk a little bit from you're throat like you have a deeper voices and slower with a tone that you really mean

like you said "the enemy's of rome"

should be "the enemy's of rome"

(how bigger the letters how harder you say it)

i hope this is helpful it's so hard to explain and i'm so bad in technical english

anyway i'm impressed by the video i did video edithing myself before there were digital camara's so i know that you guys have invested a lot time in it

maybe we will get a competition of video intro's in the future a few things more and EB can make game box and put in the computer stores

I noticed that too, from time to time the stressed syllable is located a bit weird. But I suppose you did things like ROme for emphasis, not out of 'ignorance'. Especially after the style-break between pre-Carthage and post-Carthage.

[KARTLOS]

With both of the voices it sounds you're putting the accent (klemtoon in dutch) in some lines wrong

i'm not meaning the german, american, russia, chinese accent or what ever it's very hard to explain that in words maybe it's better to call it the tone of some words

try to talk a little bit from you're throat like you have a deeper voices and slower with a tone that you really mean

like you said "the enemy's of rome"

should be "the enemy's of rome"

(how bigger the letters how harder you say it)

i hope this is helpful it's so hard to explain and i'm so bad in technical english

anyway i'm impressed by the video i did video edithing myself before there were digital camara's so i know that you guys have invested a lot time in it

maybe we will get a competition of video intro's in the future a few things more and EB can make game box and put in the computer stores

This idea of a more involved oppia is intriguing to me. Is it something that appears on the campaign map also?

agreed, the emphasis you are putting on certain words (including rome) didnt sound right.

i dont mean to be rude or mean but the german version voice sounds like some kind of obscure heavy metal! i dont think you accent is ever going to work with this.

[Tellos Athenaios]

I am from Austria, and I'm kinda night active, and you forgot to say which one you liked better!

hooahguy14 gets my vote.

Loose comments: both accents are, well, clearly audbile. Kinda fun, actually. However, you should try and pronounce your syllables more distinctively - from time to time you lapse to 'inner-mouth talking', the articulation basically should be more distinct.

[Kampfkrebs]

Good evening!
I´d like to give you some suggestions to your video(s).

Due the fact that both are nearly the same (cutting and stuff), the only real difference is the narrated text.

I´ll start with the movie itself:

Cutting:
Well, for an intro, you have to "prepare" the player for the choosed faction.
And of course you must tell something about your faction.

You can get this at the end if you use more "epic" effects, like:

- _SLOW_ and _SOFT_ fade in/fade out effects, your cutting was almost too "hard"

- "Epic" music which fits the choosen faction, e.g. if you take some celt faction you must use some celt music of course. And then you have to watch out that the music fits the shown scenes. It definitive kills all emotions if you use fancy battle music at a battle line-up scene.

A tip: try to make the intro´s to the music. Dont record some scenes first and then search music with barely fits to it. Its a horrible no-go!

If you decide to synchronize your movie, then make sure that you have some native language speaker at hand. Rome is somewhat easy, cause latin is still taught at (like mine, german) schools. But if you want to synchronize something like Carthage, then you´ll might get a problem. So i suggest not to synchronize it (first).

And spam your movie with effects!!
Go and buy some composing(sp?) software like adobe after effects, and work with it for a month. After you feel comfortable with it, try to improve your videos with some filters (you can make some really cool stuff with software like this, but i´ll keep it as my secret ;) ).


But the king of the kings are rendered movies.
Well you might think "omgz0r liek warcraft??ß", but...uhm..no.
It´s way nearly impossible to create a rendered intro alone in a timescale with dont owns your real life, so the only real way to use this technique is only to use some rendered scenes.

E.g: The prince speaks to his father (rendered), then cut into RTW engine.
Sounds easy, but its really hard to create.


Well, i hope i could help you a bit for your next projects, cant wait to see it!

Best regards,
Julian


(Concurrently part of the eastern workgroup for (Intro´s) EB (even if my sig dont works here))