Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South
I never said I think the muslims should give up anything.
No I guess you didnt. How about western Texas then ?


Isreal is a mistake and we are idoits for siding with them.
i am in a much better mood today albeit still irritated generally. Israel as a concept and nation wasnt a mistake IMHO just the choice of locale. Yes we are making a mistake siding with them in the current methods employed. I have no problem with them, Iran, or anyone else being our buddies but there is no real benefit IMHO to the current approach of arming one side over the other.

Ive become convinced the middle east is nothing more than hodgpodge of large familes and tribes who cant seem to get over there blood fueds, religon money power are simply tools to fuel hate that all starts becuase of your name. Far be it from me to stop mindless killings on both sides since neither can grow up and talk instaed they both claim gods word and waste countless lives over land. Idoits the lot of em
In spirit I agree with your sentiment. I would rather sell them and everyone else the means to conduct the fueds, and simply pull out of any physical involvement. (similar to the russian position).

Giving them grants, aid, payoffs, freebies whatever you want to call it is a continuation of a failed foriegn policy that extends back to the spanish american war. We should have let Cuba conduct thier own independence movement and stayed the hell out.

The 30billion is just another branch of a developed and intricate web of a foriegn policy that isnt based on any constitutional principle, except for perhaps "all men are created equal". We shouldnt be involved in foriegn wars or affairs and its high time someone said enough is enough.