American Crackpots

**Gregoshi** · 08-17-2007, 03:50

You have to wonder about those groups that chant "America is the greatest!", yet promote actions and viewpoints that are about as un-American as you can get.

No disrespect meant, but President Bush has only one less thing in common with Julius Caesar than a Caesar salad does.

**Lemur** · 08-17-2007, 04:24

Just to be absolutely clear, I do not think that the right wing has a monopoly on loonies. There are plenty of fringe nutters to the left, and on every dimension of politics an causes. I just think that as any movement goes into eclipse, the freaks come out to howl at the moon. It's an exciting time if you enjoy nuttiness, as I do.

**Gregoshi** · 08-17-2007, 04:33

I prefer my nuttiness smothered in chocolate.

...I'm not sure that came out like I meant it.

**Don Corleone** · 08-17-2007, 05:00

Hahaha... people that don't vote Democrat are so stupid Hahaha....

You know, if Democrats spent more time coming up with their own ideas instead of laughing at and insulting people that don't agree with them, they might actually steal a middle of the road voters like me away. But sadly, not going to happen.... like you, the leaders of your party are too busy being smug and sanctimonious and telling people like me that because i don't appreciate their greatness on all matters, I'm feeble-minded. Remind me to start posting threads about what's been going on with your buddies on Slate.com and DailyKos for the past 10 years one day, then we'll really have some laughs.

Oh, Hahahahaha.

**Don Corleone** · 08-17-2007, 05:05

By the way, that wasn't just a kneejerk reaction. The whole point of the first article was that in a Democracy, the right thing isn't always the popular thing. You might want to go check FDR's ratings in the summer of 1941. Or Truman's in 1951. Nothing Republican about either of them, but they did make some hard choices, out of a sense of duty, not what was politically expedient. Do they indulge in some classical hero worship? Sure. But personally, and get your laugh box ready, there, oh king of scorn, I'd personally rather be led by a guy that did what he thought was right than by a guy who did what he thought would get him the most votes. Guess that's why I vote for my party and you vote for yours.

**Don Corleone** · 08-17-2007, 05:08

As for Stu Bykofsky... who the hell is he? When did he become my spokesman? I go find some crackpot from San Francisco's blog and I can attribute it you?

Okay, so much for dialogue. I guess I need a break from the Backroom for a while. When people I ~~usually~~ used to respect post trash like this to ridicule me, they're going to get the reaction they probably expected. In other words, kiss my 2nd ammendment empowered, homeland protectin, tax evading ~~Shhhh~~

big guy.

**Lemur** · 08-17-2007, 05:32

Yuo, I think those two essays are hilarious. I also tried to make painfully clear:

Neither essay represents mainstream thought, be it Republican, Democratic or Indie.
The Right does not have a monopoly on crackpots.

I really didn't post these guys to mock you, Don, but rather because I think they're sterling examples of the Great American Nutball. And interestingly, one of them is from a foundation with some heavy hitters on the board, and the other is being given major air time. So they're not only glorious kooks, they're kooks with an audience.

Sorry I offended you so deeply, and rest assured it wasn't my intent. Please, feel free to contribute some nutballery from the left as well.

P.S.: I ain't no Dem, and I never will be. As I have explained previously, my political ideology is much closer to Goldwater Republicanism than anything on the left. So please refrain from accusing me of (a) political affiliation, and (b) reading Daily Kos, which I must confess I have never even opened. You'll note that I post way more links to the Heritage Foundation and NRO than I do to anyplace else. Only in the post-Rove America can a small-c conservative be accused of being a granola-crunching socialist.

I come down harder on the Republicans because I feel utterly betrayed by them. Liberal democracy, free markets, balanced budgets and a light governmental hand are very, very dear to my heart, and the party that ought to represent those values manifestly does not.

**Husar** · 08-17-2007, 06:54

Originally Posted by Don Corleone

By the way, that wasn't just a kneejerk reaction. The whole point of the first article was that in a Democracy, the right thing isn't always the popular thing. [...] But personally, and get your laugh box ready, there, oh king of scorn, I'd personally rather be led by a guy that did what he thought was right than by a guy who did what he thought would get him the most votes. Guess that's why I vote for my party and you vote for yours.

Nothing against you Don, but did you read the first article?

Originally Posted by first article

The wisest course would have been for President Bush to use his nuclear weapons to slaughter Iraqis until they complied with his demands, or until they were all dead. Then there would be little risk or expense and no American army would be left exposed. But if he did this, his cowardly electorate would have instantly ended his term of office, if not his freedom or his life.

I stopped reading shortly after that myself, lunatic isn't strong enough a word to describe the person who wrote that. It borders Nazi propaganda to be precise.

**AntiochusIII** · 08-17-2007, 07:24

Careful, Husar, else somebody's gonna call on you for pulling a Godwin's Law. The Backroom has been rather thin-skinned and contrarian lately.

I think I'll commit internet suicide now and get the hell out of the Backroom for a while. If people can't laugh at this [flowery insertion] then it's not a place for a left wing scumbag like me to run around unprotected. The Grey Wolves might get to me.

Commemorating my first ever internet suicide.