Comics/BD's/strips/... you would recommend

**Lord Winter** · 08-22-2007, 22:33

My friends got me intoMegaTokyo

**Moros** · 08-24-2007, 21:05

Asterix et Obelix!!!

And ofcourse V for Vendetta.

I guess no Manga, right?

**Stig** · 08-24-2007, 21:29

Manga are no comics.

Comics are made by Frenchmen or Belgians, and some Dutchmen.

**Kekvit Irae** · 08-24-2007, 23:41

As for the actual paper comics, I sometimes read Knights of the Dinner Table. I used to read Thieves & Kings before it got all weird and confusing.

**Moros** · 08-25-2007, 14:50

Originally Posted by Stig

Comics are made by Frenchmen or Belgians, and some Dutchmen.

Americans and Eglishmen have made some god commics to if you ask me. V for Vendetta for example is british and it's one of the best there is, imo. Also Americans are famous for their heroe commic books. X-team, Spiderman, Fantastic Four,...
So I can't realy agree. And I bet loads of other countries did make good commics too, but I don't really know examples. Well Except for manga...but that may not be "commic book" commic books.

**Stig** · 08-25-2007, 16:15

Originally Posted by Moros

Americans and Eglishmen have made some god commics to if you ask me. V for Vendetta for example is british and it's one of the best there is, imo. Also Americans are famous for their heroe commic books. X-team, Spiderman, Fantastic Four,...
So I can't realy agree. And I bet loads of other countries did make good commics too, but I don't really know examples. Well Except for manga...but that may not be "commic book" commic books.

I'm a fan of the Franco-Belgian comics. But you hardly see those produced these days.
Good examples are:
Gaston Lagaffe
Tintin
Asterix
Lucky Luke
And even the Carl Barks drawn Disney albums

I really like that style, as used by Franquin and Uderzo. Here in Holland we had the comic magazine Eppo (later Eppo Wordt Vervolgd, Wordt Vervolgd and SjoSji) and they had all Franco-Belgian comics. You grew up with them. For other comics you had to go to special stores.

**seireikhaan** · 08-25-2007, 16:50

What's with everyone liking Asterix? We 'studied' some Asterix last year in French class, and I wasn't even slightly amused. Didn't do anything for me.

**Stig** · 08-25-2007, 18:13

Originally Posted by greaterkhaan

What's with everyone liking Asterix? We 'studied' some Asterix last year in French class, and I wasn't even slightly amused. Didn't do anything for me.

It's not only greatly written, but also brilliantly drawn

**ElectricEel** · 08-25-2007, 19:13

I mostly read webcomics. Schlock Mercenary and Girl Genius are some of my older favorites. Crimson Dark is a more recent addition to my list.

**Peasant Phill** · 08-27-2007, 09:02

Originally Posted by greaterkhaan

What's with everyone liking Asterix? We 'studied' some Asterix last year in French class, and I wasn't even slightly amused. Didn't do anything for me.

The humour of Goscinny is twofold in my opinion. First you have the obvious almost slapstick humour with the constant fighting, the cowardly romans and the desperate officers.
The second kind of humour is far more subtle and demands some background knowledge of known European people, prejudices (e.g. Belgians like to eat and drink, Dutch are avaricious, ...) and turn phrases. This layer is what gives Asterix and Obelix such a fan base with the somewhat older public. The album "Asterix and the Belgians" for example features Eddy Merckx (Best cyclist of all times) and Janssen en Jansen (characters in the comic Tintin).

It's very hard to get all these subtle references when your not familiar with the culture. Moreover, a lot of the linguistic humour (especially in names) can be lost when your not entirely familiar with the language.

What Manga's are concerned, I don't mind them being mentioned. They use the same medium.
I just don't appreciate manga's as much (the same goes for most American comic books) as the french BD's and Belgian/Dutch strips. It's more a case of an acquired taste than a claim of superiority of one style.
I dislike manga because of the omnipresence of the style, the drawn-out stories and various other style principles.
I dislike most American comics due to their format. Stories with cliff hangers every 20 pages, new writers every few story arcs, cameo's of other heroes, escalating powers to counter escalating dangers, nothing being permanent, ... All in the name of making money.

**Fragony** · 08-27-2007, 09:50

Originally Posted by Stig

It's not only greatly written, but also brilliantly drawn

Also brilliantly translated from french to dutch. And don't forget Scandinavia when talking about 'comic-countries', Storm, Thorgal, fantastic

**Peasant Phill** · 08-27-2007, 10:46

I think I already mentioned that Thorgal isn't scandinavian. the story is placed in Scandinavia but it is written by the Belgian Jean Van Hamme and drawn by the pole Grzegorz Rosiński.
Storm is written by your fellow countryman Martin Lodewijk and drawn by the Brit Don Lawrence.

That being said, I would like to discover some Scandinavian comics. It occurs to me how little we know of each others comic scene.

**Fragony** · 08-27-2007, 10:59

Owwwwwwwwwww

Ah well, I'll just add another recommendation, Ravian, french (I think :P)

**Conradus** · 08-27-2007, 13:16

Originally Posted by Fragony

Also brilliantly translated from french to dutch.

I also like the animals in Astérix et Obelix. You often see chickens, Idéfix,.. living their own life at the edge of every picture. It really adds something to the comic.

**Stig** · 08-27-2007, 13:48

Originally Posted by Fragony

Also brilliantly translated from french to dutch.

Not anymore in the newer editions.

**Moros** · 08-27-2007, 14:31

Originally Posted by Stig

Not anymore in the newer editions.

quite so. And I hate the new names. Why change them anyway?

**Stig** · 08-27-2007, 17:51

Originally Posted by Moros

quite so. And I hate the new names. Why change them anyway?

For the kids I guess

**R'as al Ghul** · 08-27-2007, 19:52

Originally Posted by Peasant Phill

What Manga's are concerned, I don't mind them being mentioned. They use the same medium.
I just don't appreciate manga's as much (the same goes for most American comic books) as the french BD's and Belgian/Dutch strips. It's more a case of an acquired taste than a claim of superiority of one style.
I dislike manga because of the omnipresence of the style, the drawn-out stories and various other style principles.

I also despise the "big eyes" mangas but there's more to see in Japanese Comics. For example Lone Wolf & Cub:

or Akira.

**Peasant Phill** · 08-28-2007, 08:51

Originally Posted by R'as al Ghul

I also despise the "big eyes" mangas but there's more to see in Japanese Comics. For example Lone Wolf & Cub: or Akira.

All styles and cultures have their treasures, their white ravens. That's why every style should have it's place in this thread. I, however, doubt that I'll read Lone Wolf and Cub or Akira as they just don't spark my interest.

**Conradus** · 08-28-2007, 10:34

When I was going through the older strips of my dad, I came across another fine series: Blueberry. Serious western, nicely drawn, great stories, one of my favourites.