And the next Total War game is....

**Trax** · 08-22-2007, 17:45

Originally Posted by andrewt

Isn't almost everything "light" in this time period? Not an expert, but from what I understand, cav only wore armor as parade dress. They ditched the armor when actually fighting.

No.

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The cuirass was notoriously burdensome to wear, and demanded a strong man. In summer it was unbearably hot, which "might cause dehydration and heat exhaustion." (in "Kurze Beschreinbung und Heilungsart der Kranckheiten welche am oftersten in dm Feldlager Beobachet werden") The young cavalrymen thought much about their comfort rather than utility and purpose. During the Napoleonic Wars some cuirassiers even discarded their armor, for example in 1809. (Such things occured already long before the Napoleonic Wars. "So unpopular had it become by 1638 that in that year, Louis XIII had to order aristorcratic officers to wear their armor or risk losing their noble rank. Louis XIV issued a similar command in 1675, demanding all officers to wear cuirasses, but the law was widely disobeyed. The only entire regiment still wearing any armor ... was the Royal Cuirassiers." (Lynn - "Giant of the Grand Siecle" p 490)
The veterans however knew very well why they carry the armor. They claimed that the cuirass saved them from "many a bullet and many a thrust." It protected against musket and pistol shots fired at longer range, generally above 30-60 paces. (The term bullet proof came from actually shooting them with a musket and marking the dent as ‘proof’ of the quality of the armor.) The armor protected the torso leaving open to attack only the neck, arms and face. This is harder to nail someone in a specific and small place than to simply waiting for any good opportunity to hit at large area.

**GeoBeeChamp** · 08-22-2007, 19:00

When does it come out?

**Kings Hand** · 08-22-2007, 19:03

They are saying 2008 but i wouldnt hold my breath.

**andrewt** · 08-22-2007, 19:09

I got my impression of "light" by reading the history of cuirassiers. They started dropping steel in their armor until only a cuirass was left and late in their development, a lot of them stopped wearing the cuirass as well.

**woad&fangs** · 08-22-2007, 19:58

Hooray!!! their site says improved AI and diplomacy. plus, that water looks very pretty. If my computer can run it(I doubt it

) than I'm going to get it. Some things I am curious about though is how different the factions will be and how big of a role they will give the native americans. Oh, and I might lose a lot of battles because I'm looking at the pretty graphics.

**Lord Winter** · 08-22-2007, 21:53

Any clue about a start date?

**Kings Hand** · 08-22-2007, 22:16

I think i read somewhere 1700-1820ish, at 2 turns per year thats about the same as m2. I would love to see seasons implemented properly ie. campaigning in north african summer/russian winter next to suicidal.
I wonder will they try to revive the 'food' idea which was never fully realised in previous titles.

**King Jan III Sobieski** · 09-04-2007, 18:19

I am intrigued to see how this new game measures up to all the rest.

**Enoch** · 09-06-2007, 09:39

Wow... It has been a while since I last visited.

This new game is definitely a must have.
The sea battles with raking and other tactics should be fun.

**Adrian II** · 09-06-2007, 15:15

Colonies, naval battles, improved AI, hmmm. Can't wait to lay my hands on this one.

*full schoolboy mode*

**CrossLOPER** · 09-06-2007, 16:13

I hope this game encourages a change of tactics as time goes on. The introduction of guns in MTW was a good idea, but the result was that there were units available that did a good job of eliminating them. I would like to see something like the encouraged removal of pike men when they become too much of a nuisance to order around on the field.

As for the naval battles, I really have no idea what they will do. Personally, I think it will look something like Serpentine Guns firing at each other. Hopefully, it will be better than that.

**Martok** · 09-06-2007, 23:47

Originally Posted by Adrian II

Colonies, naval battles, improved AI, hmmm. Can't wait to lay my hands on this one.

*full schoolboy mode*

Hey Adrian! Haven't seen you in this neck of the woods in a little while. Good to see you again!

**Adrian II** · 09-07-2007, 10:30

Originally Posted by Martok

Hey Adrian! Haven't seen you in this neck of the woods in a little while.

Oh, the foul camel stench. My friend, please take a long bath. Then we shall sit down in the shade of yonder palm tree and ruminate our glorious past.

So yeah, good to see you too.