Religion

[Daveybaby]

This is the most confusing part, purely because I would love to know how the map will look if it doesn't include Africa.

It would certainly make getting to/from india much easier.

[sapi]

It would certainly make getting to/from india much easier.

Imagine Napoleon marching from France to Russia in 10 years.

I always had the opinion that the lenghty travel times were frustrating.

RTW:Marching from Rome to the forest of Germani in 3 or 4 years - unrealistic
M2: Marching from Rome to Jerusalem 5 or 6 years - more unrealistic even with ship transport.

Perhaps they solved the probelm this time...

Hopefully the increased focus on navies has let CA give them a realistic movement distance; which should fix some of those problems...

[Freedom Onanist]

I think religion should treated as natural disaster in this era, a bit like the inquisitors in M2TW. If it appears you get strife, rebellions and your cultural and technological development is slowed down.

It's the Enlightenment and the Age of Reason!

Though in reality it never went away and played its usual baleful role in instigating major bloodshed.

It is worth noting that for example in India the British ruled with relatively few troops by leaving social and political structures alone as much as possible. It was only when they got all "onwards christian soldiers" in the Victorian age that missionaries really started to appear in India. At about which time the Indian Mutiny happened - go figure.

In Quebec, the Brits left well alone and things ticked over nicely without major interruptions.

Whereas in Ireland where they interferd drastically in society and religion it all went wrong from the start.

[Mailman653]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=90532
See this thread, religion is gone, politics are in.

[The Celt]

Concerning religion IGN said in a preview that.....oh never mind, Mailman beat me to it.
I don't like this idea as it probably means they're gonna clump religious sects and divisions together.(Like they have so far really. "Islam" "Orthodox" "Catholic", possibly Protestant, and thats it.)I hope they at least divide Islam properly this time, as this is really the era where the Sunni vs. Shia conflict begins.(As it was an important aspect of the Safavid-Ottoman conflict.)Plus their's the Shieks, who also show up in this period.(And consequently go completely ape shit on the Mughals, Maharatas, and the British.)

Personally, I wish they'd include Africa as it provides a passage to India(or to the west, if your thinking of bringing Hindu/Muslim soldiers to the new world.)and the European powers were quite involved in that continent as well.(*cough*slavetrade*cough*)

[uanime5]

If you read at the .com, it says only 3 continents are included. Europe, Americas, and India I would guess.

India isn't a continent, it's part of Asia.

Personally, I wish they'd include Africa as it provides a passage to India(or to the west, if your thinking of bringing Hindu/Muslim soldiers to the new world.)and the European powers were quite involved in that continent as well.(*cough*slavetrade*cough*)

Maybe the slave trade is why they don't want to include Africa, though they allowed slavery in RTW.

[Mailman653]

India isn't a continent, it's part of Asia.



Maybe the slave trade is why they don't want to include Africa, though they allowed slavery in RTW.

But during that era, slavery wasin't entirely about color, it was mostly the people of conquered nations who were turned to slaves and sent to Rome.

[Geoffrey S]

Africa, at the time, wasn't that important to Europe; slave trade, yes, but that was (financially) a relatively minor business. Major colonial possessions there and in most of Asia were gained by European nations in the 19th century; until then, they were mostly limited to the coasts (Africa) or to trading with the natives (Asia).

[Zarky]

Slavery really should be included!
Even if adding it would make all little *bad word* cry.
It´s history we´re talking about and slavery was part of it there´s no way getting around that. So what if Europeans/Americans say they don´t want to be seen as *again bad word* slaverers, they already did it.
Politics seems nice instead of religion... since religion became side fact in warring with other nations. It might affect changes to be influenced by propaganda or something if they add it.

[Darkarbiter]

India isn't a continent, it's part of Asia.



Maybe the slave trade is why they don't want to include Africa, though they allowed slavery in RTW.

Oh ffs
I'm guessing that means getting to india will involve going west. Concidering portugal is included thats a bit silly. The only thing they need to do if they mean to not offend people is to not make the AI automaticly go and collect slaves. So long as the human player has the option of never seeing it, it probably wont offend people.

[sirnoob]

It talks in the preview abot french possesions in north africa the only thing is it doesn't mention south africa