Are you Orgahs happy with the decision made by having a 18th century TW game? Says your pros and cons, and don't forget to vote.![]()
Are you Orgahs happy with the decision made by having a 18th century TW game? Says your pros and cons, and don't forget to vote.![]()
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Swords Made of Letters - 1938. The war is looming in France - and Alexandre Reythier does not have much time left to protect his country. A novel set before the war.
A Painted Shield of Honour - 1313. Templar Knights in France are in grave danger. Can they be saved?
Well its better than rome 2 , but still i hoped for something asian oriented.
Count me in as a "Not Sure".
Not crazy about this period of history....but then again, CA couldn't keep retreading old ground (Shogun, Medieval, Rome) could they?
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Originally Posted by BoyarPunk
Could make a STW 2 and RTW2 with a brand new expasion pack for each one of course. But THat would be somewhat boring. We already have RTW that came out not to long ago. We still have STW that still somewhat poular. So I think they should wait and come out with 1 or 2 new games before they Do a RTW2 or (the one they should do first) STW2.
I'm not sure. MP Wise, it's looks good, with the ladders and rankings, what i been waiting for. But They always promise to make MP better with each game/expasion and they never do. Comee out with Patches that fix 1 or 2 MP ploblems and leave the rest go.
I'm not sure how the Sea Battles would go. what the tactics? Line your ships up, FIre, and just wait? Can you get to board,or no? can you see the ship sink and the bodies foating around? I mean,![]()
That is too long!So I think they should wait and come out with 1 or 2 new games before they Do a RTW2 or (the one they should do first) STW2.STW2 (or what ever else) after empire and RTW2 after it in 2012 will be optimal variant, I guess. As I'm not a STW fun I'm not so interested in 2 future TWs, but even 8 years (!) waiting for next Rome is too long for me!
Can you imagine - I was 14 years old then played Rtw first time, and will be 22 y-old then Rtw2 comes out...
Originally Posted by Charge
Yea, but you think people would get sick of doing STW2 and RTW2?
RTW and RTW2. Wow, big deal, same games, only better graphics and a few new options for the latter!![]()
I want NEW TW games. Yea, it nice to make re-makes, but I want NEW, not re-makes.
Generally it doesn't matter re- or not re-making. We want engine improvements with new features, new abilities, improved gameplay. Re making - M2TW after RTW. This is a remaking.
I would sent this empire to hell if there are no improvements in gameplay. Actually it has it, but I'll sent it anyway cause I'm Rome fan![]()
You seriously think that in Rome2 will be nothing except better graphics and few new options? It can be absolutely new game, if CA will manage this. And for most its a best time setting...
Absolutely! I can't really think of an era that fits the TW game mechanics better.
In terms of the campaign map it was incredibly competitive and complex.
On the battlefield I have always had to suspend my disbelief when ordering a discrete "unit" of dismounted knights to charge in a neat formation. Even the R TW series had problems for me. The blobby barbarian formation just seemed a bit of a bodge as a game mechnic. The canon and musket era had units manoeuvring in precise formations, changing formations firing to precise drills etc...
Plus this whole time period is defining to the world as it is still experienced today. I know the Romans had a huge impact and all that, but it can be a bit remote. Look at the world around yo now and you can still see this period right there in front of you. The relics of empire, the new nations, the new politics. More than any Renaissance Humanism the Enlightenment's focus on Reason pulled us and the rest of the world out of the claws of medieval obscurantism - pity we seem to be slipping back towards it!
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I must admit I am happy now I have had time to think about it, I am looking forward to this immensly.
Its brining in a new period of history where the tactics and huge battles still remain, had it gone towards a period any time after Napoleon I wouldn't be buying it.
Looks good, got EUIII to tide me over 'til it lands![]()
RIP TosaInu
Ja Mata
Frankly, they should finish M2TW first. Another expansion wouldn't hurt either. Gunplay doesn't excite me in any event; give me guys hacking each other up with swords any day.![]()
CA in Australia are in charge of MTWII, its unlikely there will be anymore expansions for it but not entirely impossible, although they are most likely now starting TW 6.Originally Posted by gardibolt
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I'm happy. This period of warfare is one of my personal favorites. Problem is it's also one of the least understood. There are so many prejuidices and incorrect preconceptions around musket warfare I feel ETW might take a bit of unfair flak.
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I don't know, depends on how the game plays.
I can imagine it being an awesome, immersive game if done right, but if it will be too "accessible", it can also turn out very bad. From experience I'd have to say it should be decent and keep me playing for months, but you never know, I'm not even sure about getting Kingdoms, some things about it sound more limiting and not to my taste, which dragged my initial enthusiasm down quite a bit.
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I'm very hesitant about this game, the impression I have is that with both sides lined up facing each other; 40% of the men on the field will be dead after one volly.
And I'll be interested to see how tacking is handled in ship battles.
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I'm... content. Not the best period for them to make a game in (they really needed to go back and make S2:TW), but better than pretty much any time period afterwards. The problem I see (and the reason that games set in times past E:TW) is that the majority of troops will be Missile troops. You'll have Cavalry too, at least, but it's not like there were a lot of swordsmen in the 1700s.
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
I love it. It was exactly what I had hoped for. The period is just perfect for the whole game mechanics, and it'll allow CA to get away from the paper-scissors-rock system that's not exactly realistic and in my opinion doesn't make much sense from a gameplay point-of-view either.
Imagine: We will get a map of the whole world, be able to conquer it, bring it under our rule. We can send whole continents into ruin or make them thrive on our whim. We will finally be able to fight naval battles, and experience all the new tactics that are introduced there, and in real, disciplined gunpowder battles.
If we're lucky, CA will even finally include a support mechanism (maybe optional) which would also open up a completely new huge batch of gameplay decisions.
The period introduced the first truly global empires, the industrial revolution and colonization with all their good and bad points. And it's a brand new setting. I know a lot of you wanted to see another stick-and-blade game, but this is much more interesting in my opinion.
CA couldn't have made a better decision.
So now it appears CA Oz and M2TW were created simply to sate our hunger for TW games in the interim, whilst in the grand scheme of things this was what CA Proper had long planned for and developed.
I'm just as amazed as everyone else is at the announcement but, as Noir has discussed, it's when we finally play the game for weeks on end that we'll see whether it will stand the test of time.
No, they should have made something else. I have no interest in this time period whatsoever. They should have made Shogun 2: Total War or Asia: Total War. Asia in general got snubbed.
Definately yes!
I've been one of those who've wanted a gunpowder game for TW4 for a long time. The NTW mod, even with all its limitations of gameplay and AI, was tremendous fun and showed what potential this era has.
The naval battles sound like they are implementing lots of different factors, so its clearly being taken seriously. Now if they couple that with a real-time campaign map (as has been discussed here before).......*drools*
Of course, CA need to include a free PC upgrade and a time-warping maching that gives me 4-5 spare hours a day so I can actually play the game
EDIT: Oh, and the modders will have a field day with this. Sooooo many eras and wars can now be properly done - ECW, 30 yrs war, right through to the Crimean War and ACW
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"I request permanent reassignment to the Gallic frontier. Nay, I demand reassignment. Perhaps it is improper to say so, but I refuse to fight against the Greeks or Macedonians any more. Give my command to another, for I cannot, I will not, lead an army into battle against a civilized nation so long as the Gauls survive. I am not the young man I once was, but I swear before Jupiter Optimus Maximus that I shall see a world without Gauls before I take my final breath."
Senator Augustus Verginius
Yes, I think I'll have fun with it. I actually really enjoy ranged battles in MTW 2 (though not so much in the first medieval). Lone lines of muskets, and shock cavalry to break the enemy's troops, yum.
Really, as long as they don't make another damn WW2 game, I'll be happy with whatever they do after Empire, too.
"Sit now there, and look out upon the lands where evil and despair shall come to those whom thou lovest. Thou hast dared to mock me, and to question the power of Melkor, master of the fates of Arda. Therefore with my eyes thou shalt see, and with my ears thou shalt hear; and never shall thou move from this place until all is fulfilled unto its bitter end". -Tolkien
To be fair this Total War has the potential to end the midlessly annoying "conquer everybody" mentality that has existed all through out the series. In Shogun it made sense, after all you were competing to become Shogun in one small area, but conquering the entire of Europe never made sense in Medieval, and in reality conquering it all never did in Rome either.
Empire has the opportunity to play much like Europa Universalis in the sense that it can bring back the Glorius Achievements to build up points, and allow you to win by merely colonising certain area's and bringing your country forward in tech and so forth, thus stopping the boring "conquer everything" syndrome that has dogged Total War. I will admit I am looking forward greatly to Kindoms due to the area being reduced, making the conquering seem more, possible, really.
I really do want Glorious Achievements back, it was an immense feature and really did let you play to your own hearts content without having to blitz the rest of Europe.
RIP TosaInu
Ja Mata
After reading the typical PR promotion about Empire i'm not sure Glorious achievements are in.
They talk too much about world-spanning empires(aka: conquer at least 50 provinces, etc...)
They claim that they listen to their fanbase(a poll was even made), but Glorious achievements would be a top point on the wishlist of their fans.
Perhaps they listened this time...
Unless you're playing as Napoleonic FranceOriginally Posted by NagatsukaShumi
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"I request permanent reassignment to the Gallic frontier. Nay, I demand reassignment. Perhaps it is improper to say so, but I refuse to fight against the Greeks or Macedonians any more. Give my command to another, for I cannot, I will not, lead an army into battle against a civilized nation so long as the Gauls survive. I am not the young man I once was, but I swear before Jupiter Optimus Maximus that I shall see a world without Gauls before I take my final breath."
Senator Augustus Verginius
I am more excited than any other title to date. The possibility for one of the greatest games ever created is at the feet of CA.
Edit: On second thought, now that they are controlled by SEGA, I should probably be prepared to be dissapointed like I was for M2TW. Not to be negative, but that was all flash and no substance. I played it for a month and have barely touched it since. Every faction was virtually the same and the unit selection was horrific. Sure it looked pretty, but who cares what it looks like if it plays like an arcade game?
Sorry for the downer, I just don't want to get my hopes up. I'm going to keep my expectations low and plan for CA to have their creative hands tied by SEGA.
Last edited by Divinus Arma; 09-11-2007 at 03:44.
Our dream is done.
In years and years, we will be able to do a WII mod!Without airplane, but something is something!
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what about a tw about native americans,not like kingdoms,but from southern canada to northern south america,i got the name,TRIBAL TOTAL WAR!!!![]()
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Mark me down as a "yes". I thought they would return to Asia, but I'm willing to wait for that, confident that it's in the pipeline of development, somewhere.
Meanwhile, gunpowder and naval will introduce new challenges to me, the player - always good fun.
On the downside, it's probably gonna require a hardware update for my 3-year old rig. So, this $60 game will cost me @$2,000 in one-time cashflow.
Be well. Do good. Keep in touch.
Prices are growing unstoppable...
I've got to agree with you KukriKhan, I haven't been able to upgrade to play M2:TW yet, so I've got no chance of playing this yet. Overall though, after playing Napoleonic 2, which I must say is fantastic, I realise what a great era this is. Its also nice to have a change and have to develop tactics for gunpowder and the naval battles look amazing.
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