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    Hello everyone. I would like to express one major concern I have about this new Total War title. Frankly I read it and it seems to be revolutionary what they intend to put into the game. But my biggest concern is not the AI or anything like that. Its this:will they try and pull a supreme commander?
    Supreme Commander(SC) was an spiritual successor to the kick-ass RTS Total Annihlation. Myself and my friends were excited when we heard about it. Finally they were going to make this successor to our favorite game. It looked like it would even be better than TA! Unfortunatley are hopes were quickly dashed when we found out that you needed an super computer to run the game. And even then it was still laggy.
    My question is obvious by now so I will not ask it. Personally my computer is decent. But it is by no means top of the line. I certainly hope that CA will not make Empire something that only those who have money to spend on the best computer parts will be able to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Aurelius
    Hello everyone. I would like to express one major concern I have about this new Total War title. Frankly I read it and it seems to be revolutionary what they intend to put into the game. But my biggest concern is not the AI or anything like that. Its this:will they try and pull a supreme commander?
    Supreme Commander(SC) was an spiritual successor to the kick-ass RTS Total Annihlation. Myself and my friends were excited when we heard about it. Finally they were going to make this successor to our favorite game. It looked like it would even be better than TA! Unfortunatley are hopes were quickly dashed when we found out that you needed an super computer to run the game. And even then it was still laggy.
    My question is obvious by now so I will not ask it. Personally my computer is decent. But it is by no means top of the line. I certainly hope that CA will not make Empire something that only those who have money to spend on the best computer parts will be able to play.
    What ze eck do you mean? I can play Supreme Commander at the highest settings on a coomputer that only cost me 1300 dollars CANADIAN. Dude you got ripped...
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    well if the game is crap who cares if your computer runs it or not? this is the least of my concerns.

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    Sounds like people are less concerned about Empire, and more about their computers and/or wallets...
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    CA dont make generally high requirements for games. If you can run M2TW on high with no lag, you should be able to play medium settings with no lag.

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    pever's right I can play M2TW on my piece(which is lackluster at best) on medium or low settings I cant remember with little or no lag. I doubt it will require anything that'll make you have to buy a super computer. I know I'll have to either get a new one or upgrade though.
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    im not that concerned, CA are pretty generous
    i thought it was gonna be some huge major problem/concern :P

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    I can still run M2TW fine on my 3-year old rig with only 512mb of ram. That said, I am getting a system upgrade soon so I can play ETW totally maxed out.

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    Medieval Ii Total War Is Awesome..... It Owns Every Game :))))

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    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen
    CA dont make generally high requirements for games. If you can run M2TW on high with no lag, you should be able to play medium settings with no lag.

    I have nearly 3 gigs of processor speed, 1 gig of Ram, and a 256 video card and M2TW lags the ever-loving-taff out of my machine on the lowest settings. :(

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    I have nearly 3 gigs of processor speed, 1 gig of Ram, and a 256 video card and M2TW lags the ever-loving-taff out of my machine on the lowest settings. :(
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    lol, your telling me? :P
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    Im concerned bout the fact that by the time the game comes out, i dont have the money to upgrade...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk
    I have nearly 3 gigs of processor speed, 1 gig of Ram, and a 256 video card and M2TW lags the ever-loving-taff out of my machine on the lowest settings. :(

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    Well, you haven't said what the video card is. Onboard memory is not the sole gauge for performance when it comes to video cards....it could have 512mb and still be a complete piece of crap.
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    Developers generally design games to take advantage of the absolute best technology available at the time and also plan towards what is going to be avialable to the masses at the time of the game's release, so they will upgrade throughout the development -- hence most newly realeased games will ususally tax the crap out of the best systems if the game is played on its highest settings.

    Any mainstream developer has to do this to stay ahead of the curve and it's just the nature of the industry.

    Because of this it is the plight of the PC gamer to have to upgrade constantly if they want to play the latest and greatest. The only alternative is go over to the dark side and become a console gamer--then you only have to upgrade about every 2 to 3 years
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forward Observer
    Because of this it is the plight of the PC gamer to have to upgrade constantly if they want to play the latest and greatest. The only alternative is go over to the dark side and become a console gamer--then you only have to upgrade about every 2 to 3 years
    Well, the (PC) gaming market is essentially split in two: the high priced new games and hardware and the low priced older games and hardware. You can hardly blame the industry for catering to those willing to spend a lot of money for something they could get for 1/2 to 1/5 of the price a year (or two) later...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forward Observer
    Developers generally design games to take advantage of the absolute best technology available at the time and also plan towards what is going to be avialable to the masses at the time of the game's release, so they will upgrade throughout the development -- hence most newly realeased games will ususally tax the crap out of the best systems if the game is played on its highest settings.

    Any mainstream developer has to do this to stay ahead of the curve and it's just the nature of the industry.

    Because of this it is the plight of the PC gamer to have to upgrade constantly if they want to play the latest and greatest. The only alternative is go over to the dark side and become a console gamer--then you only have to upgrade about every 2 to 3 years
    It sounds fair, but not fair enough. All these upgrades cost too much. Sometimes I think they aren't even paying careful attention to older machines.

    Turning to a console seems a very good choice to save money though it has its disadvantages. Whether it's the "dark side..." Hmmmm.... Since PC gaming requires you to upgrade a lot and spend much more monetary resources (and can possibly provide even more frustration than a console), it would be fair to consider PC gaming the "dark side". If you ask me, both console and PC gaming are dark, but PC gaming has the darker side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GFX707
    Well, you haven't said what the video card is. Onboard memory is not the sole gauge for performance when it comes to video cards....it could have 512mb and still be a complete piece of crap.

    ATI Radeon Xpress 1150

    It has 400mhz of speed and pretty decent all around specs. I don't think it should run so slowely. :P Got a friend with the same rig, and his handles things much better. :P

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    umm.. Vuk that is not a good card. Also the amount of video ram is not everything. You can have 1gig of video ram and a slow clock/mem speed and it will be beat by a 256mb card with fast clock and mem. And I think people can play it a decent settings with just a small upgrade. Technology moves on. Your same computer 5 years ago might not beable to play all your games. Yes computer gamming is expensive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Aurelius
    Hello everyone. I would like to express one major concern I have about this new Total War title. Frankly I read it and it seems to be revolutionary what they intend to put into the game. But my biggest concern is not the AI or anything like that. Its this:will they try and pull a supreme commander?
    Supreme Commander(SC) was an spiritual successor to the kick-ass RTS Total Annihlation. Myself and my friends were excited when we heard about it. Finally they were going to make this successor to our favorite game. It looked like it would even be better than TA! Unfortunatley are hopes were quickly dashed when we found out that you needed an super computer to run the game. And even then it was still laggy.
    My question is obvious by now so I will not ask it. Personally my computer is decent. But it is by no means top of the line. I certainly hope that CA will not make Empire something that only those who have money to spend on the best computer parts will be able to play.

    What I am more concerned about is them trying to do too much, gameplay wise.

    Fight on land, and on sea and in the houses of government and this and that and something else they just decided on at the spur of the moment...

    I am also concerned that they will royally bollox tactics. This is my area of expertise and I am very worried that my favorite game company will make an arse of themselves.
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    GAH!

    Vanya had a slow PC once. But Vanya solved that problem, and now plays MT2W on it!

    This PC is one ole dinosaur, too. 286... 512K RAM... 20GB HD... 100 Hz... 300 Baud modem.

    For slowness, Vanya hired a voodoo priestess from Nawlins to give His PC a life of its own. Blessed with a soul, it now had feelings--and more importantly, could feel. Vanya then proceeded to whip that old PC until it ran like the wind! Pain is such a great motivator!

    When things got sluggy or laggy, Vanya dipped the PC in a tub full of bleach to "get the scum out". Vanya has never seen such sparkle from a mother board as when He dries it out with a hot fart after washing it all down with bleach! Didn't yo' mama ever bathe youz in bleach when youz had a cold in order to kill the virus? Same principle at play here! Why spend money buying spyware killers when a tub of el cheapo bleach will do the trick in one tenth the time?

    Now, this PC runs with the fear of Vanya embedded in every cursed circuit of it's core. Even the modem gained speed and now gives Vanya 6000 Mbits/sec when Vanya demands it. That is what Vanya calls a customer-oriented PC!

    The result? Vanya can play any game regardless of size or hardware requirements. Vanya can play MP with every bastid on the planet simultaneously should such a coordination miracle ever transpire! And the best thing? Heads roll without lag, which means Vanya does not have to gawk at poor physics disrupting the grace and magnificence of His majestic axe swings.

    GAH!
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