What Factions would you like to see in Empire Total War

[Incongruous]

The Netherlands should be in it certainly. It would be nice if its descriptions of units would be very short and to the point to save space. Also, prices of units and buildings should be cheap. It should be the best ration of price/effectivity. The units should also be very poor-looking. All of these kinds of things just to emphasize Dutch greediness

Nice!

[Patriote]

How could Prussia be in the game if IIRC, it was Napoleon you dismantle the HRE ?? What will be the time period of ETW ??

Any hint on that someone ?

[Matt_Lane]

How could Prussia be in the game if IIRC, it was Napoleon you dismantle the HRE ?? What will be the time period of ETW ??

Any hint on that someone ?

I've heard its to be 1700 to 1820.

[bozkirsovalyesi]

.... and:

İran-
İndia-
China-
Japan-
USA-
Afghanistan-
Siyam-
Burma-
Uzbek khans-
Fergana khans-
Habeshistan-

[Fate]

How could Prussia be in the game if IIRC, it was Napoleon you dismantle the HRE ?? What will be the time period of ETW ??

Any hint on that someone ?

I have an awful memorey, but if i remember correctly, the revolutions start in 1784, and napoleon came to power in 1799, and the napoleonic wars finished in about 1815-1820, so these states would exist.

Though regardless of that fact, prussian forces were at waterloo if i remember correctly.

[Mailman653]

I have an awful memorey, but if i remember correctly, the revolutions start in 1784, and napoleon came to power in 1799, and the napoleonic wars finished in about 1815-1820, so these states would exist.

Though regardless of that fact, prussian forces were at waterloo if i remember correctly.

Yeah they were at Waterloo, I'm sure this will be some kind of factor in the historical battles, assuming the game goes up to 1815. Although it might since the article in another thread states that the American revolution is at the tail end of Empires, and in the official website, it states that the French Revolution is included also.

Of course that opens up another topic which will be saved for another thread, War of 1812 units, US and English soldiers looked quite different from the American Revolution and the War of 1812.

[andrewt]

I remember seeing somewhere there'll only be ten playable factions. Or maybe that's ten playable factions at the start.

[Atalus]

Just because my ancestry is Prussian I need to give some imput here.

Prussia was a Monarchy before Napoleon founded by Great Elector King Frederick William the first who came to power in 1713.We'll skip a bit of history and goto Napoleon. They lost the war to him and then were "Vassalized". Napoleon did put down the equivalent of the treaty of Versailles on them though and they had to cutback their army size. Prussia spent this time remodeling it's army to the French standards and tactics of the time. In 1805 Britain convinced Austria and Russia to join a Third Coalition against Napoleon Prussia joined as well. Enough boring history here.

Needless to say Prussia was around since 1713

[rosscoliosis]

I'm hoping (but not too optimistically) for some Asian factions...

[Simmons]

Just because my ancestry is Prussian I need to give some imput here.

Prussia was a Monarchy before Napoleon founded by Great Elector King Frederick William the first who came to power in 1713.We'll skip a bit of history and goto Napoleon. They lost the war to him and then were "Vassalized". Napoleon did put down the equivalent of the treaty of Versailles on them though and they had to cutback their army size. Prussia spent this time remodeling it's army to the French standards and tactics of the time. In 1805 Britain convinced Austria and Russia to join a Third Coalition against Napoleon Prussia joined as well. Enough boring history here.

Needless to say Prussia was around since 1713

Being a fan of EU3 I know that its more complicated than that and for anyone else who is interested here's a brief overview from Wikipedia treat it with as much caution as you deem appropriate.

King in Prussia
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

King in Prussia (German: König in Preussen) was a title used by the Electors of Brandenburg from 1701 to 1772. Subsequently they used the title King of Prussia.

The Prince-Elector of Brandenburg was a subject of the Holy Roman Emperor. In addition to his electorate which was part of the Holy Roman Empire, he also ruled the Duchy of Prussia which lay outside of the Empire. In 1701 Elector Frederick III wanted to show his greatness by adopting the title king. At the time there were only three royal titles within the Empire: "King of the Germans" (a title held by the Emperor), "King of Bohemia" (often held by the Emperor as well), and "King of the Romans" (held by the Emperor's heir).

In return for Hohenzollern assistance in the War of the Spanish Succession, Emperor Leopold I allowed Frederick to crown himself "King in Prussia", not "King of Prussia"; Frederick was only an elector in his domains within the borders of the Empire, not a king. Even so, his move was controversial, and only became widely accepted after the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713. The title "King of Prussia" implied lordship over the entire Prussian region, not simply the Duchy of Prussia, and the assumption of such a title by the Hohenzollern margraves would have threatened neighboring Poland; because the province of Royal Prussia was part of the Kingdom of Poland, the Kings of Poland titled themselves Kings of Prussia until 1742.

Throughout the 18th century the power of the Kings in Prussia continued to increase. They were victorious over the Austrian Habsburg Monarchy in the three Silesian Wars, greatly increasing their power through the acquisition of Silesia. King Frederick II adopted the title King of Prussia in 1772, the same year he annexed most of Royal Prussia in the First Partition of Poland.

As for my faction I would choose a free Hamburg
That would sure be a challenge!

[Warluster]

I have an awful memorey, but if i remember correctly, the revolutions start in 1784, and napoleon came to power in 1799, and the napoleonic wars finished in about 1815-1820, so these states would exist.

Though regardless of that fact, prussian forces were at waterloo if i remember correctly.

The Frenchie Revoulution started in 1789 and went until 1794. Nap became a General and blew the rebs away. His campaigns into Italy started in 1796, and he kept going, conquering Italy, until he reached Egypt. THen the whole Nelson thing, etc,etc.

[Jack Lusted]

Confirmed factions so far in Empire:

Britain
America
Sweden
United Provinces(Netherlands)
Poland-Lithuania
Russia
Prussia
Venice
Spain
France
Ottoman Empire

And there will be around 50 factions in Empire.

[pevergreen]

Brilliant!

Posted to Summary thread.

[Rodion Romanovich]

Confirmed factions so far in Empire:

Britain
America
Sweden
United Provinces(Netherlands)
Poland-Lithuania
Russia
Prussia
Venice
Spain
France
Ottoman Empire

And there will be around 50 factions in Empire.

This sounds promising! Beer to CA!

[The Celt]

Here's my wishlist.(Just going to put up the 10 announced factions plus maybe 11 more.)

1.British Empire
2.Kingdom of France
3.Spanish Empire
4.Prussia
5.Austria(-Hungary?)
6.Poland-Lithuania
7.Russian Empire
8.Ottoman Empire
9.Republic Of Venice
10.United States of America
11.Kingdom of Portugal
12.Saxony
13.United Netherlands
14.Kingdom of Sweden
15.Iroquois Confederacy
16.Mughal Empire
17.Maharata Confederacy
18.Safavid Empire(Persia)
19.Kingdom of Mysore
20.Kingdom of Denmark
21.Afsharid Afghans(Nader Shah)
22.Moroccan Empire

Whew! Lots of big players there! If CA can include most of that list I'll be a happy camper!

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Confirmed factions so far in Empire:

Britain
America
Sweden
United Provinces(Netherlands)
Poland-Lithuania
Russia
Prussia
Venice
Spain
France
Ottoman Empire

And there will be around 50 factions in Empire.

Question to CA:

Is there any chance to see the Austrian Habsburg Monarchy in the game?

I don't know if you know much history, but I tell you that they were very important in this era. They were THE major opposing power to France, THE major central european power, THE major opponent of the Turks, THE major opponent of Brandenburg-Prussia. They fought three big wars against Prussia for Silesia. They fought the war for the Spanish succession. They fought against Napoleon. The list goes on and on and on. They were NOT an operetta state as you propably know them from the Sissi-Movies - Sissi is from the late 19th century. Hell they even had a navy!

Including of Poland I thoroughly consider as a joke of CA. What happened? Did the Kazcinski (honestly sp) brothers intervene? But that's more or less irrelevant to me as long as you please be not so foolish to exclude Austria. Really, I'd like to kiss your feet for making an 18th century:TW (Imperial Glory was a giant disappointment), but if you exclude the major continental player for obvious reasons like marketing and perhaps the feeling of "one german power is enough", than I will surely NOT buy your game.

[SaFe]

Question to CA:

Is there any chance to see the Austrian Habsburg Monarchy in the game?

I don't know if you know much history, but I tell you that they were very important in this era. They were THE major opposing power to France, THE major central european power, THE major opponent of the Turks, THE major opponent of Brandenburg-Prussia. They fought three big wars against Prussia for Silesia. They fought the war for the Spanish succession. They fought against Napoleon. The list goes on and on and on. They were NOT an operetta state as you propably know them from the Sissi-Movies - Sissi is from the late 19th century. Hell they even had a navy!

Including of Poland I thoroughly consider as a joke of CA. What happened? Did the Kazcinski (honestly sp) brothers intervene? But that's more or less irrelevant to me as long as you please be not so foolish to exclude Austria. Really, I'd like to kiss your feet for making an 18th century:TW (Imperial Glory was a giant disappointment), but if you exclude the major continental player for obvious reasons like marketing and perhaps the feeling of "one german power is enough", than I will surely NOT buy your game.

Well, naturally the Austrian Empire should be included as playable faction, but i think for marketing reasons the U.S. and Poland will get their position as one of the mysterious 10.
You know US is important as we have many potential american buyers and the polish members will start a crusade again, if their country is not included.
Perhaps a petition again?

As this seems to be working i want to include the absolute unimportant princedom of Baden, because this is my home. (sarcasm)

To be honest TotalWar should have nothing to do with nationalism or patriotism, because it is a game with the premise to be a historical one.
So, no U.S. at the start of the game and definately no Poland as playable faction.

[xsintergalactic]

Question to CA:

Is there any chance to see the Austrian Habsburg Monarchy in the game?

I don't know if you know much history, but I tell you that they were very important in this era. They were THE major opposing power to France, THE major central european power, THE major opponent of the Turks, THE major opponent of Brandenburg-Prussia. They fought three big wars against Prussia for Silesia. They fought the war for the Spanish succession. They fought against Napoleon. The list goes on and on and on. They were NOT an operetta state as you propably know them from the Sissi-Movies - Sissi is from the late 19th century. Hell they even had a navy!

Including of Poland I thoroughly consider as a joke of CA. What happened? Did the Kazcinski (honestly sp) brothers intervene? But that's more or less irrelevant to me as long as you please be not so foolish to exclude Austria. Really, I'd like to kiss your feet for making an 18th century:TW (Imperial Glory was a giant disappointment), but if you exclude the major continental player for obvious reasons like marketing and perhaps the feeling of "one german power is enough", than I will surely NOT buy your game.

Message for SaFe

http://www.euratlas.com/big/big1700.htm



Well, since you think putting Poland-Lithuania in the game is a joke, I suggest that you go and study some history... click on the link, Poland is this tiny light blue country that was the biggest European country at that time (excluding Ottoman Empire, and Tsardom of Muscovy - today's Russia).

History is not marketing my friend. If you think Poland-Lithuania was a minor player in European history, check out the Battle of Vienna of 1683 when Jan III Sobieski saved the Austrian from Ottoman Empire invasion. I must agree with you that Austria-Hungary should be in the game, as it was a major player at that time, Poland is not a substitution. For future please educate yourself before posting, I assure you there is no involvement from the Kaczynski brothers.

I couldn't stand that Sid Meier forgot about Poland in his newest expansion, I did respect him a lot before. I like that Creative Assembly's team really do their homework on history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna

Thanks,

[Patriote]

I have an awful memorey, but if i remember correctly, the revolutions start in 1784, and napoleon came to power in 1799, and the napoleonic wars finished in about 1815-1820, so these states would exist.

Though regardless of that fact, prussian forces were at waterloo if i remember correctly.

Yes indeed Princer Blütcher was their commander. Since the last Holy Roman Emperor was "abdicated" by Napoleon and the Empire itself dissolve in 1806. Although after reading a little on the subject, there seems that Prussia and Austria were already "powers" inside the HRE but would they be included as Emerging factions, the HRE players having to decided which kingdoms he wants to rule from now on ?

[Trax]

The HRE is a rather pointless concept by 1700. The different states within the HRE took opposite sides in the great coalition wars.

Bavaria vs Austria (and the Emperor) in the War of the Spanish Succession.
Prussia and Hannover vs Austria and Saxony in Seven Years War

etc, etc.

[Subedei]

Bavaria! Bavaria! Bavaria!

Looking for a rebellious, constantly wrong-side choosing faction????

U found it!!!

[Trax]

Bavaria! Bavaria! Bavaria!

Looking for a rebellious, constantly wrong-side choosing faction????

U found it!!!

Yeah, if they are a faction in ETW I will surely play them.
Screw Prussia, Bavaria will be the true power in Germany when I'm in charge.

[Lorenzo_H]

The British being the dominant power by the end of the era are guaranteed. And with the British come the French and the Spanish. I would also assume we will see the Dutch, the Portuguese, one or more German factions such as Prussia, Russia, Austria and perhaps a few Italian nations.

[ninjahboy]

they should make Australia availiable :D its perfect timing smack bang in the middle of Empire's timeline but somehow i dont think that this will happen :(

For some reason i wont want to play as the US - not saying that they shouldnt be in there - they definitely should but i just think meh .
FOR KING AND COUNTRY!

[A Norseman]

I want Denmark/Norway.
Honestly, CA, you Shuld not include sweden and Not Denmark/Norway as those are natural enemies. Now i am comfident that denamrk/norway will be in on the 50 list. But i hope that you will also make it playable. The country had one of the best navies in the time period, and played our part in the great northern war, the Norwegian fleet making the life hard for both the Brittish and the Sweeds. A sugestion to a hero shuld be Admiral Peder Tordenskjold

[Durallan]

I want a pirate king faction! must have a pirate faction.....

[IvarrWolfsong]

England
France
Hapsburg Empire (Austria)
Spain
Netherlands
Russia
Ottoman Empire
Germany
Italy
Sweden

Those are the basic powers ( even though some are not really unified countries). I think these would be large enough to support a nice variety of units with special units for regional flavor (Prussian Musketeers, Croat Cavalry, Sicillian Skirmishers, Dutch Musketeer Militia, Scots Grenadiers, etc).

[Shahed]

THE MUGHALS!

[Ozzman1O1]

im hoping maybe british and dutch peaple in africa,dindt they have armies in africa too?

[gaiusmarius8]

Ya'll are forgetting the Aragon and Castille... , dude did anybody think of El Cid