What Factions would you like to see in Empire Total War

[Karl Gustaf XII]

Sweden,sweden,sweden and sweden did you know that sweden was a great power between the year of 1600 and 1801, in year of 1600 sweden went in to war against polan it was cald in sweden The Great Polish War, between the Polish king Sigismund (who was earlier king o Sweden) and the swedish king KarlXI. King Karl XI started the by attacking Lithuania who was a region of the polish kingdom. The war was later moved to Riga. After a few years King Karl XI died and the new swedish king Gustaf II Adolf took over the throne, the war ended in the battle of Gurzno. Sweden was 8000 men and Poland 7000. Sweden won the battle pretty easy with only 30 men dead and 60 men wounded. Sweden was standing as the winner and had counquerd Lithuania.
In the 16th century Sweden had one of the best armies in the world and they prooved it at the Battle Of Breitenfeld were the German Emperors army were totaly crushed. Battle Of Breitenfeld
Sverige-Sachsen Holy-roman empire- The Catholic League

Commanders Commanders

Gustav II Adolf Johann Tserclaes Tilly
Gustaf Horn Gottfried Heinrich von Pappenheim
Johan Banér
Lennart Torstenson
Johan Georg I of Sachsen

After the battle Sweden had counquerd Prussien in the northern Germany and had fulfield every goals they had but Gustaf II Adolf had bigger plans. The Swedish army marched down into southern Germany and sacked town after town. The 15th april in the year of 1632 the swdish army smashed into the Catholic army when they tried to cross the river Lech. After the war against germany and poland sweden had northern Germany and pieces of Poland, the entire Baltic, Finland and Norway. Swden lost many regions in Finland and Baltic in the war against Russia in the year of 1788. In the year of 1813 the swedish crown prince Karl XIV Johan declared war against Napoleon, Sweden were present at the battle of Liepzig, the battle of slaget vid Dennewitz and the battle of Grossbeeren. In the Piece in Kiel Sweden traded away Prussien aginst some norwegian regions.

Hope i gave you some Swedish history now

[Kalle]

Sweden,sweden,sweden and sweden did you know that sweden was a great power between the year of 1600 and 1801, in year of 1600 sweden went in to war against polan it was cald in sweden The Great Polish War, between the Polish king Sigismund (who was earlier king o Sweden) and the swedish king KarlXI. King Karl XI started the by attacking Lithuania who was a region of the polish kingdom. The war was later moved to Riga. After a few years King Karl XI died and the new swedish king Gustaf II Adolf took over the throne, the war ended in the battle of Gurzno. Sweden was 8000 men and Poland 7000. Sweden won the battle pretty easy with only 30 men dead and 60 men wounded. Sweden was standing as the winner and had counquerd Lithuania.
In the 16th century Sweden had one of the best armies in the world and they prooved it at the Battle Of Breitenfeld were the German Emperors army were totaly crushed. Battle Of Breitenfeld
Sverige-Sachsen Holy-roman empire- The Catholic League

Commanders Commanders

Gustav II Adolf Johann Tserclaes Tilly
Gustaf Horn Gottfried Heinrich von Pappenheim
Johan Banér
Lennart Torstenson
Johan Georg I of Sachsen

After the battle Sweden had counquerd Prussien in the northern Germany and had fulfield every goals they had but Gustaf II Adolf had bigger plans. The Swedish army marched down into southern Germany and sacked town after town. The 15th april in the year of 1632 the swdish army smashed into the Catholic army when they tried to cross the river Lech. After the war against germany and poland sweden had northern Germany and pieces of Poland, the entire Baltic, Finland and Norway. Swden lost many regions in Finland and Baltic in the war against Russia in the year of 1788. In the year of 1813 the swedish crown prince Karl XIV Johan declared war against Napoleon, Sweden were present at the battle of Liepzig, the battle of slaget vid Dennewitz and the battle of Grossbeeren. In the Piece in Kiel Sweden traded away Prussien aginst some norwegian regions.

Hope i gave you some Swedish history now

I agree with the main point that you make: Sweden should be in the game and should be a playable nation.

Part from that there is a whole lot of things to correct in your post. For instance that Sweden was a great power from 1600-1801, I never heard those years being the limits of the Swedish great power status before. Some say 1631 (Breitenfelt) to 1709 (Poltava) others say 1561 (Reval i.e. Tallin with major parts of todays Estonia to Sweden) to 1721 (Peace of Nystad) and others make other suggestions but they are all within that timespan.

Sure, Sweden took part in the Napoleonic wars later on but not as a great power.

The Swedish king Charles XI did not live during the years you suggest he was waging war in Poland and he was not Gustavus II Adolphus father. Charles IX on the other hand was and he managed to waste an entire army at Kirchholm against the Poles.

I dont think it is true that Sweden had the best army in the world during the 16th century allthough Erik XIV made reforms that resembled and preceeded the dutch reforms, still we were loosing vs the Danes.

In the 17th century (sextonhundratalet) on the other hand the Swedes on some occassions had the best army in the world and also one of the best generals in history (Gustavus II Adolphus) and also a few other generals (Banér, Torstensson, Charles X and so on) who all were top notch.

No doubt we had the best army in the world from the late 17th century (after Charles XIs reforms) until roughly 1709 (we had some success after that also: Helsingborg, Gadebusch) and also two brilliant tacticians in the king Charles XII and his tutor Rehnshiöld.

We did not have Norway until 1814 when we took it from Denmark as compensation for loosing Finland to Russia.

There is some more to say aswell but that would require to much effort :)

Anyways I agree with you: Sweden should be playable.

Kalle

[RLucid]

In the year of 1813 the swedish crown prince Karl XIV Johan declared war against Napoleon, Sweden were present at the battle of Liepzig, the battle of slaget vid Dennewitz and the battle of Grossbeeren. In the Piece in Kiel Sweden traded away Prussien aginst some norwegian regions.

Timing is everything in war! Where were you at Waterloo?

[Quintus.JC]

Factions
Twelve factions have been confirmed to be in the game with ten of them playable at the start.

Faction Name Playable at Start?
British Empire Yes
The Ottoman Empire Yes
The Kingdom of France Yes
The Kingdom of Prussia Yes
The Spanish Empire Yes
The United Provinces (Dutch Republic) Yes
The Swedish Empire Yes
The Russian Empire Yes
Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth Yes
Thirteen Colonies Yes
Republic of Venice No
Austrian Empire No

(source of info from Wikipedia)

I for one would like to see more oriental Powers. The Chinese at that time are a powerful empire but are gradually failing through a series of weak emperors. The Japanese on the opposite are rising to be one of the major powers in the world. They could be compared with the Byzantine and Ottoman Empires.

[VRB]

18th century without Austria faction?:D Very funny

[Quintus.JC]

18th century without Austria faction?:D Very funny

The Austrian are in it, but at the moment they appear as an unlockable faction. Not available at the start of the campaign.

By the way welcome to the forum, VRB.

[Lusitani]

18th century without Austria faction?:D Very funny

Its a lot funnier to see a game about empires without the country that started the whole thing ...

[Martok]

Its a lot funnier to see a game about empires without the country that started the whole thing ...

Which country would that be?

[deguerra]

Which country would that be?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian_Empire

According to wikipedia, the first empire deserving of the name was the Sumerian Emprire of Akkad (Akkadian Empire)

[Lusitani]

Which country would that be?

Not the Akkadian Empire as suggested by DeGuerra....i meant the start of "globalized empires" that started in 1415 with the conquest of Ceuta by the portuguese.

[RedOneZulu]

Yes, the japanese and chinese would be interesting to see in a game like this, at this Era. But if they should choose to include them, how should the map look like? A map over almost the whole world, or one just from, what will it be, eastern europe/western asia to the west and into Japan and China? I mean, over the atlantic sea and the Americas and then also over the pacific? That should be a huge map. Or one just going to the east, without the Americas then. Then perhaps you could include India aswell, then you could have the Marathi Empire as another faction.
Aswell I think the danish should be in the game. Otherwise I feel like the swedes wouldn't have so many enemies (or possible enemies), except russia but they should probably be busy with... like everyone else.

Just my two cents.

[Quintus.JC]

Yes, the japanese and chinese would be interesting to see in a game like this, at this Era. But if they should choose to include them, how should the map look like? A map over almost the whole world, or one just from, what will it be, eastern europe/western asia to the west and into Japan and China? I mean, over the atlantic sea and the Americas and then also over the pacific? That should be a huge map. Or one just going to the east, without the Americas then. Then perhaps you could include India aswell, then you could have the Marathi Empire as another faction.
Aswell I think the danish should be in the game. Otherwise I feel like the swedes wouldn't have so many enemies (or possible enemies), except russia but they should probably be busy with... like everyone else.

Just my two cents.

You misunderstood me. I meant that these 12 factions are confirmed as playable factions. The rest are in, but unplayable.

By the way welcome to the forum RedOneZulu.

[shopperkimpy]

Siam , Siam !!!
the strongest nation in Southeast Asia from 1767 to 1893
one of the few countries in the world which has never been colonised

[Quintus.JC]

Siam , Siam !!!
the strongest nation in Southeast Asia from 1767 to 1893
one of the few countries in the world which has never been colonised

That's a very good suggestion. Welcome to the forum Shopperkimpy.

[Abokasee]

You misunderstood me. I meant that these 12 factions are confirmed as playable factions. The rest are in, but unplayable.

By the way welcome to the forum RedOneZulu.

Just a quick edit of the descr_strat should do the trick...

[Quintus.JC]

Just a quick edit of the descr_strat should do the trick...

Yeah, I always do that in R: TW. But does it work in MII:TW as well. The unplayable ones. I mean like the Papals and Mongols hordes and Aztecs. The hordes are emergent factions that don't appear at the start, The Pope gives out missions and the Aztecs are in the middle of no where.

[dain4745]

Sweden,sweden,sweden and sweden did you know that sweden was a great power between the year of 1600 and 1801, in year of 1600 sweden went in to war against polan it was cald in sweden The Great Polish War, between the Polish king Sigismund (who was earlier king o Sweden) and the swedish king KarlXI. King Karl XI started the by attacking Lithuania who was a region of the polish kingdom. The war was later moved to Riga. After a few years King Karl XI died and the new swedish king Gustaf II Adolf took over the throne, the war ended in the battle of Gurzno. Sweden was 8000 men and Poland 7000. Sweden won the battle pretty easy with only 30 men dead and 60 men wounded. Sweden was standing as the winner and had counquerd Lithuania.
In the 16th century Sweden had one of the best armies in the world and they prooved it at the Battle Of Breitenfeld were the German Emperors army were totaly crushed. Battle Of Breitenfeld
Sverige-Sachsen Holy-roman empire- The Catholic League

Commanders Commanders

Gustav II Adolf Johann Tserclaes Tilly
Gustaf Horn Gottfried Heinrich von Pappenheim
Johan Banér
Lennart Torstenson
Johan Georg I of Sachsen

After the battle Sweden had counquerd Prussien in the northern Germany and had fulfield every goals they had but Gustaf II Adolf had bigger plans. The Swedish army marched down into southern Germany and sacked town after town. The 15th april in the year of 1632 the swdish army smashed into the Catholic army when they tried to cross the river Lech. After the war against germany and poland sweden had northern Germany and pieces of Poland, the entire Baltic, Finland and Norway. Swden lost many regions in Finland and Baltic in the war against Russia in the year of 1788. In the year of 1813 the swedish crown prince Karl XIV Johan declared war against Napoleon, Sweden were present at the battle of Liepzig, the battle of slaget vid Dennewitz and the battle of Grossbeeren. In the Piece in Kiel Sweden traded away Prussien aginst some norwegian regions.

Hope i gave you some Swedish history now

Most of this is true but i am just going to point out that sweden never conquered lithuania, and lithuania wasn't a territory but it's own country in union with poland, Sweden did conquer Latvia and Estonia if that is what you are thinking. Not to forget earlier in history the Polish and Lithuanian forces defeated sweden also, not sure of the numbers, but i was pretty sure P.L. was outnumbered.

[Megas Methuselah]

There is no doubt Sweden was a great power, but yeah, that post was somewhat nationalistic and biased.

[Pinxit]

There is no doubt Sweden was a great power, but yeah, that post was somewhat nationalistic and biased.

I am from Sweden. And that post wasnt nationalistic and biased. It was complete rubbish.

[Sheogorath]

I am from Sweden. And that post wasnt nationalistic and biased. It was complete rubbish.

A Swede with sense? Good sir, I salute you!

But seriously, it's rather funny, if you look up any battle of the Great Northern War that the Russian's won on Wikipedia, take a look at the 'discussion' page. There's usually a great big argument between the Russians and Swedes as to who REALLY won, the wording of the article and so on.

It may just be me, but are Swedes naturally such a prickly lot? Must be the Viking heritage!

[Sir Beane]

Do Sweden and Russia have an England/France thing going on?

If so multiplayer is going to be interesting, what with both sides of the argument being able to recreate famous battles playing as their home faction.

[Sheogorath]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_Wars

That should tell you all you need to know

And, indeed, it should be fun to watch the Swedish and Russian clans go at it

[Pinxit]

Do Sweden and Russia have an England/France thing going on?

If so multiplayer is going to be interesting, what with both sides of the argument being able to recreate famous battles playing as their home faction.

Considering that during the battles of Narva and Poltava Sweden was outnumbered 5 to 1, it will indeed be interesting to see how this is solved. And the Russians lost the battle of Narva. I cant even imagine how much of a noob you must be to lose with such an advantage in numbers (in the game).

[Pinxit]

A Swede with sense? Good sir, I salute you!

But seriously, it's rather funny, if you look up any battle of the Great Northern War that the Russian's won on Wikipedia, take a look at the 'discussion' page. There's usually a great big argument between the Russians and Swedes as to who REALLY won, the wording of the article and so on.

It may just be me, but are Swedes naturally such a prickly lot? Must be the Viking heritage!

I have read those arguments between the Russians and the Swedes on Wikipedia. It seems both sides fight because of nationalistic pride. Its not limited to the articles about Russian victories. Its in the Swedish victories as well. But most of all it seems to be limited to some few "prickly" individuals, Russians _and_ Swedes.

I fail to see the connection between Vikings (="blood thirsty, rapists, plunderers, fearless warriors) and being prickly. I thought Sweden had the reputation of being an extremely low profile and pacifist country, since we apparently decided to take a nap while the rest of the world blew themselves up in WW1 and 2.

[Megas Methuselah]

Wow. It's almost as bad as the various fights between the Greeks and Slavs on YouTube.

I thought Sweden had the reputation of being an extremely low profile and pacifist country, since we apparently decided to take a nap while the rest of the world blew themselves up in WW1 and 2.

Huh? What country are you talking about?