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  1. 08-24-2007, 07:59 #1
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    Default Switching Skins

    I've decided that however realistic the Greek Cities Hoplitai studded leather armor may be, I simply cannot stand the look of it. So, I was wondering if perhaps I could exchange the skin of the Greek Cities Hoplitai with that of the Eluetheroi (sp?) ones? IIRC those are the ones with the linothorax and the shield with the cup or chalice on it.

    If anyone could help me with this it would be awesome, I searched through the RTW modding forums but couldn't find what I am looking for.
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    Default Re: Switching Skins

    Quote Originally Posted by Griever14206
    I've decided that however realistic the Greek Cities Hoplitai studded leather armor may be, I simply cannot stand the look of it. So, I was wondering if perhaps I could exchange the skin of the Greek Cities Hoplitai with that of the Eluetheroi (sp?) ones? IIRC those are the ones with the linothorax and the shield with the cup or chalice on it.

    If anyone could help me with this it would be awesome, I searched through the RTW modding forums but couldn't find what I am looking for.
    Open the DMB file (RTW\EB\Data\descr_model_battle.txt) with notepad. Choose the "Edit" option from the menu and then "Find". Keyword is "hoplitai"
    The entry should look like this:

    Code:
    ; Hellenistic infantry - Hoplitai / Hoplitai Hellenikoi -------> MISSING MED/LOW/LOWEST

type				hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_hellenikoi
skeleton			fs_o_f_spearman						    ; combat spear
indiv_range			40
texture				thrace, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_thrace.tga
texture				greek_cities, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_greek.tga
texture				macedon, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_macedon.tga
texture				romans_julii, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_hellenistic.tga
texture				romans_brutii, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_hellenistic.tga
texture				numidia, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_hellenistic.tga
texture				germans, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_hellenistic.tga
texture				gauls, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_regional.tga
texture				scythia, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_regional.tga
texture				spain, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_regional.tga
texture				britons, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_regional.tga
texture				dacia, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_regional.tga
texture				egypt, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_regional.tga
texture				seleucid, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_regional.tga
texture				carthage, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_blacksea_sor&het_carthage.tga
texture				romans_scipii, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_blacksea_sor&het_carthage.tga
texture				armenia, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_regional.tga
texture				parthia, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_regional.tga
texture				saba, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_regional.tga
texture				pontus, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_hellenikoi_sor_pontus.tga
texture				slave, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_slave.tga
texture				merc, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_merc.tga
model_flexi			eb/data/models_unit/ebhellenic_infantry_hoplitai_hellenikoi_sor_high.cas, 15
model_flexi			eb/data/models_unit/ebhellenic_infantry_hoplitai_hellenikoi_sor_med.cas, 30
model_flexi			eb/data/models_unit/ebhellenic_infantry_hoplitai_hellenikoi_sor_low.cas, 40
model_flexi			eb/data/models_unit/ebhellenic_infantry_hoplitai_hellenikoi_sor_lowest.cas, max
model_sprite		thrace, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_thrace.spr
model_sprite		greek_cities, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_greek.spr
model_sprite		macedon, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_macedon.spr
model_sprite		romans_julii, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_successor.spr
model_sprite		romans_brutii, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_successor.spr
model_sprite		numidia, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_successor.spr
model_sprite		gauls, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_all.spr
model_sprite		scythia, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_all.spr
model_sprite		spain, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_all.spr
model_sprite		britons, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_all.spr
model_sprite		germans, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_all.spr
model_sprite		dacia, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_all.spr
model_sprite		egypt, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_all.spr
model_sprite		seleucid, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_all.spr
model_sprite		carthage, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_all.spr
model_sprite		romans_scipii, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_all.spr
model_sprite		armenia, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_all.spr
model_sprite		parthia, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_all.spr
model_sprite		saba, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_all.spr
model_sprite		slave, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_slave.spr
model_sprite		merc, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_merc.spr
model_sprite		pontus, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_hellenikoi_all.spr
model_tri			400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f
    Now. Copy the texture and mode_sprite entries from the slave faction after the entry for greek_cities, so that the lines look like this:

    Code:
    texture				greek_cities, eb/data/models_unit/textures/hellenistic/ebhellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_sor_slave.tga
    and like this

    Code:
    model_sprite		greek_cities, 60.0, eb/data/sprites/hellenistic/ebsprite_hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_slave.spr
    Save the DMB file and exit. Restart EB and you should now be using the skins of the Slave faction for your Classical Hoplites. If it was another unit you were referring to, the same principle applies.

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  3. 08-27-2007, 03:48 #3
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    Default Re: Switching Skins

    I'm a fan of the Mercenary(or is it Roman?) That has the Helmet on the shield,
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    Default Re: Switching Skins

    Thank you for this thread. I changed the textures of some Greek units (f.e. make them walking barefoot ) and exchanged also the Epirote slingers texture with that of the rebel ones (because it is not the best choice to have a broad petasos on your head when you have to use a sling), but the hats appear still as a black matrix. I presume, the reason is that I did not change the sprites too?
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  5. 08-27-2007, 07:58 #5
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    Default Re: Switching Skins

    Quote Originally Posted by geala
    Thank you for this thread. I changed the textures of some Greek units (f.e. make them walking barefoot ) and exchanged also the Epirote slingers texture with that of the rebel ones (because it is not the best choice to have a broad petasos on your head when you have to use a sling), but the hats appear still as a black matrix. I presume, the reason is that I did not change the sprites too?
    Yes. Sometimes the sprites are defined as something along the line ebspriteunitnameall. When that ending for the sprite applies you can settle for changing the textures only. It will work fine regardless.

    However most EB unit models are shared by several unit types, often by different cultures. In those instances the sprites for the specific textures are unique. And must be changed along with the textures. In battle, if the model looks messed up after a skin change, incorrect sprites or other model data is at fault.

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  6. 08-28-2007, 15:57 #6
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    Default Re: Switching Skins

    Wait, would switching skins of Greek bodyguard with something else, maybe Seleucid Hypatists or Baktrion Agema be as easy, or would I have to change the whole unit

    Because I don't like how my Rhodian, Athenian or Kretans have a spartan bodyguard.
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