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    Crap. Ok, I've been looking for a connection between one of the suspects (RoadKill and Kagemusha) and one of the lynched players. The only thing I saw that remotely fits the bill is Andres criticising my vote for RoadKill.

    I've also been reviewing Kagemusha's game interaction in particular detail. It looks as though people have suspected him on quite a regular basis, though nothing serious ever really developed. Excerpts follow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone
    Blatant attempt to portray himself as outside the mafia camp when it wasn't required, or even helpful to the discussion....
    Vote: Kagemusha
    Don has notably been suspicious of Kage throughout this game for various reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brave_Sir_Robin
    Vote:Kagemusha

    He seems to be trying very hard to fly under the radar to me. He pops in, says something that usually just adds to confusion and then leaves again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian
    If it's not Rabbit, and I don't think it's Kommodus, then Csar/Ichigo and Kage are the experienced players left who are capable of playing this well. I'll go for Kage.

    Vote: Kagemusha
    Quote Originally Posted by shlin28
    This is bad... if I vote for anyone, people will say Im bndwagonning...

    Oh who cares, Vote: Kagemusha, Die experienced player Die!
    For me, there are two interesting points concerning Kagemusha:

    1. He began the game with what appeared to be a "poke" attempting to draw out the mafia. This is fairly typical of Kage; it fits his normal tactics for drawing out the guilty. He was placed under suspicion for this, however; and after this he only did it a couple of times.

    2. The Kage I remember from previous games would, at this point, probably be really paranoid about me. I'm a bit curious as to why he doesn't seem to be so now.

    Another interesting thing. At many points in this game we've all wondered what was up with the choice of kills. Why kill Sasaki? a bewildered town asked. And why leave Crazed Rabbit alive when he's known to be innocent? Why leave Kommodus alive, for that matter?

    The mafia, in their kills, have been brushing aside conventional wisdom. One thing is certain: they were not the kills I would've expected from a guy like Kage. So I ask myself and others: is that what we were supposed to conclude?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha
    But like i sayed before, im not mafia and you can lynch me if you want, you should just think,would i do mistakes like killing Sasaki,when he is under suspicion already.
    Of course, we all know that Kage doesn't mind being lynched; he's told us the same before:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha
    Does spelling error count as a vote? I dont mind dying,but im not the mafia.
    Of course, RoadKill is extremely fishy. The reasons for this are obvious. His persistent bad logic, his "suicide" stunt, and this latest post of apparent desperation:

    Quote Originally Posted by RoadKill
    Vote: Roadkill

    Good game Mafia. You win.
    But right now, I am extremely paranoid about Kagemusha. He's an exceptional player and has deflected suspicion smoothly in this game. I may be wrong, but:

    Vote: Kagemusha

    EDIT: I was going at add one more thing, but forgot: Occam's razor would seem to dicate that RoadKill is the one to lynch. It's possible paranoia is getting the better of me in this game, as it did in GFII, another supremely confusing game. I'll have to think this over.
    Last edited by Kommodus; 09-22-2007 at 21:02.
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    Kommodus, I'm not trying to pull anything, we lose, lynch me.
    You were a good mafia Kommodus.
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    Occam's Razor indeed...
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    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadKill
    Kommodus, I'm not trying to pull anything, we lose, lynch me.
    You were a good mafia Kommodus.
    I know who I'm lynching next game. Effing quitter
    Why did the chicken cross the road?

    So that its subjects will view it with admiration, as a chicken which has the daring and courage to boldly cross the road,
    but also with fear, for whom among them has the strength to contend with such a paragon of avian virtue? In such a manner is the princely
    chicken's dominion maintained. ~Machiavelli

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    Roadkill has been doing many scummy things, but Kommodus's behavior this round screams "scum trying to appear protown".

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    They're all scummy in their own way if you ask me.


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    Yes, Occam's Razor does seem to be a prevalent theme throughout this game...

    Twenty minutes until lynch.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadKill
    Kommodus, I'm not trying to pull anything, we lose, lynch me.
    You were a good mafia Kommodus.
    Then for the love, man, place a vote on Kage. I know you think I'm mafia - you've thought so for a long time - but I'm not. Create a tie and give us more time.
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    Voting over.

    Stand by for the execution.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
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    Ah crap. Game over.

    Great game Kagemusha. Really well-played. You get a new nickname: Moriarty.

    And it looks like your record in GH's games continues unsullied. You are easily one of the best, if not the best, mafioso I've ever played with. If I was going to lose to someone, I'm glad it was you.
    If you define cowardice as running away at the first sign of danger, screaming and tripping and begging for mercy, then yes, Mr. Brave man, I guess I'm a coward. -Jack Handey

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    Sunset.

    There were four people left, the Final Four, four little Indians, all awaiting their fate. They had cast their votes, discussed one final time, and then waited for the second act of the nightly show (in town ten days only, but make sure you see the finale!) to come onstage; waited for the final votes to be read.

    Chief of Police Beirut entered the show stage left, but to no applause. After all, it would be out of place. Instead, he placed the gun and book from the previous night on the same table as before and read the votes without any pre-emptive speech.

    "Gentlemen," he said after the votes had been counted, "You have hereby determined RoadKill to be guilty of murder. I can only hope that you're right. RoadKill, have you anything to say before your sentence is carried out?"

    RoadKill made his way up the platform, looking very sad. Was it from failing the town? Failing his mission assigned by superiors? Who knew? "Yeah," he sighed, "You guys got the wrong guy. Can I at least have the antimatter chair or the sharks? Those were cool deaths."

    "No. You get the second half of The Tay Bridge Disaster, mafioso."

    "What happened to 'innocent until proven guilty?'

    "There's only one way to find out," Beirut said with a touch of finality. He opened the book and thumbed through the pages, finding the one he wanted, and slipped the headphones over his ears after tying RoadKill's hands down.

    "So the train sped on with all its might,
    And Bonnie Dundee soon hove in sight,
    And the passengers' hearts felt light,
    Thinking they would enjoy themselves on the New Year,
    With their friends at home they lov'd most dear,
    And wish them all a happy New Year."

    The screaming began. None of the town heard it, as all of their hands were firmly clamped to their ears in terror. None of them wanted a repeat of Ichigo the previous day. RoadKill suffered alone.

    "So the train mov'd slowly along the Bridge of Tay,
    Until it was about midway,
    Then the central girders with a crash gave way,
    And down went the train and passengers into the Tay!
    The Storm Fiend did loudly bray,
    Because ninety lives had been taken away,
    On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
    Which will be remember'd for a very long time."

    The writhing and wriggling began. Since this was a visual cue rather than a sonic one the three remaining townies took notice. Each had a different thought on his mind.

    "As soon as the catastrophe came to be known
    The alarm from mouth to mouth was blown,
    And the cry rang out all o'er the town,
    Good Heavens! the Tay Bridge is blown down,
    And a passenger train from Edinburgh,
    Which fill'd all the peoples hearts with sorrow,
    And made them for to turn pale,
    Because none of the passengers were sav'd to tell the tale
    How the disaster happen'd on the last Sabbath day of 1879,
    Which will be remember'd for a very long time."

    Beirut looked out pleasantly over the developments taking place. He didn't suffer, his ears were covered up and were being blasted by Pink Floyd's "Sheep." He was the lucky one. He paused, ready to read the final stanza.

    "It must have been an awful sight,
    To witness in the dusky moonlight,
    While the Storm Fiend did laugh, and angry did bray,
    Along the Railway Bridge of the Silv'ry Tay,
    Oh! ill-fated Bridge of the Silv'ry Tay,
    I must now conclude my lay
    By telling the world fearlessly without the least dismay,
    That your central girders would not have given way,
    At least many sensible men do say,
    Had they been supported on each side with buttresses,
    At least many sensible men confesses,
    For the stronger we our houses do build,
    The less chance we have of being killed."

    That was it; the incredible suckitude of the poem had taken over. Driven insane by the horrible meter, RoadKill, with a surge of adrenaline, broke through the rope, bellowed, dove for the gun and shot himself in the head while still in midair. It was done.

    There were three left now, three little Indians that had once been four; were they all doomed to lose even more?


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Still alive: (3)
    Crazed Rabbit
    Kommodus
    Kagemusha

    Suicide/Wrath of God:
    Ignoramus
    FesterShinetop
    Fragony
    Don Corleone
    Pra Tha Funkee Homo Sapien
    Ichigo

    Killed:
    pevergreen
    Sigurd Fafnesbane
    Caius Flaminius
    Killfr3nzy
    Sasaki Kojiro
    Byzantine Mercenary
    Warmaster Horus
    Xdeathfire
    Destroyer of Hope
    Twilightblade
    Dutch_guy
    greaterkhaan
    Tran
    sapi
    discovery1
    CountArach
    Proletariat
    Tiberius of the Drake
    Stig
    shlin28

    Executed:
    Sarathos
    Husar
    Beefy187
    Andres
    Lemur
    Xiahou
    woad&fangs
    Pannonian
    Brave_Sir_Robin
    RoadKill
    Last edited by GeneralHankerchief; 09-22-2007 at 23:00.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    You sound a lot like you did in M3, Kommodus.


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    Huh? We should have lost
    Cos two people will die during the night, so why bother doing another night phase?


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    For suspense.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sooh View Post
    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    The suspense is killing me....

    Well, technically it did kill me- a few rounds back.
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    I'm thinking it was kommodus after all...

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    You all may be in suspense, but I'm not. The game is over, and the town has lost, and the mafia have won. CR, it's been nice knowing ya, but you and I are going to die tonight.

    Oh, fear the day Kagemusha's name is chosen at random to play the mafia role! I think we may have a new "always-lynch-this-guy-first" candidate to replace Sasaki.

    Yes, he fooled me very well for the entire game. He fooled us all. Some people suspected him occasionally, but none could build a strong enough case to get him lynched.

    Gah, I am so ashamed/frustrated/embarrassed right now...
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    The only point of that post would be to try and convince us that you are innocent...you've already said that stuff before.

    You did a really good job at seeming townie up until the last couple rounds, and managed to win the game...good job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
    The only point of that post would be to try and convince us that you are innocent...you've already said that stuff before.

    You did a really good job at seeming townie up until the last couple rounds, and managed to win the game...good job


    You are going to be so surprised at the outcome of the game...

    (My real purpose was to congratulate Kagemusha and to express my disgust at my own inadequate efforts...)
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    You are going to be so surprised at the outcome of the game...
    Crap. Crap, crap, crap. You pretend you're mafia when you really aren't and now you're saying you're innocent.

    Sorry Roadkill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    Crap. Crap, crap, crap. You pretend you're mafia when you really aren't and now you're saying you're innocent.

    Sorry Roadkill.

    CR
    Just because I did that once doesn't mean I do it every time. I didn't do it in all the other games when I was town, did I?

    By my life, how I wish you were right...

    Though your apology to RoadKill is appropriate. For my part, I apologize to Xiahou, Pannonian, Brave_Sir_Robin, and anyone else I got falsely lynched.
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    Unless GH forbade the mafioso from confessing before his final write up, you seem like the only player left who would pretend to be innocent after the game was over, Kommodus. Nice job

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    It be funny if kage was mafia, and if i unvoted and voted for him, we would have won. So yes blame it on me, for being a quitter.
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    I'm still lost and Kage is rather quiet.


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    Hoo boy, this commentary is gonna be a bear to write.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    Informal poll.

    While you guys are waiting, why not post here your predictions and guesses on who the two mafiosi are?
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    Whens the next write up coming?


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    Tomorrow sometime.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    Suspect: Kagemusha

    Edit: admittingly, I stopped paying real close attention after I died.
    Last edited by seireikhaan; 09-23-2007 at 04:22.
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